Former Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., in her upcoming book "Oath and Honor," disclosed the moment she learned of former President Donald Trump's plot to paint his loss of the 2020 presidential election as fraudulent, calling it "a very dangerous and chilling moment." MSNBC's Rachel Maddow read an excerpt from the book, detailing a phone call made two days before the deadly Capitol attacks in which the former president's legal team allegedly discussed the fake elector scheme. Cheney, who noted that Trump's attorneys were unaware that she was listening in on the call, also observed that former Vice President Mike Pence was acting in cooperation with the plans at that time.
“Listening to them describe how these fake electors were going to be used and the fact that they anticipated that Vice President Pence was gonna use them to refuse to count the legitimate electors was certainly a moment of intense concern,” Cheney wrote, also noting that she fled to the House parliamentarian after the call concluded to try and halt the plan. “It was very clear that there were not a lot of good answers to that,” Cheney added. The former legislator observed that Pence "ultimately of course did his duty bravely," writing that she soon learned he was also speaking to the Senate parliamentarian. Pence would also eventually testify before a grand jury investigating Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election.
alvarezg on December 5th, 2023 at 17:58 UTC »
Cheney should be a witness in Trump's Jan 6 trial.
PunfullyObvious on December 5th, 2023 at 17:48 UTC »
Have those commenting on this story actually read it ... or been paying attention to things related to this generally? Liz is certainly not my idea of what a statesperson should be generally, but she did take what she heard to the Parliamentarian immediately, she was one of the two Republicans on the committee that oversaw the impeachment of Trump, and she voted to impeach him, and I suspect the committee was well aware of the call and her role in it. She's one of relatively few congressional Republicans who were on the right side of the impeachment inquiry ... and it cost her her political career. Again, she was not on the right side of much else in my opinion. But, most of the negative comments in this thread simply aren't factually accurate ... and, facts do matter.
S_Belmont on December 5th, 2023 at 16:59 UTC »
Cheney's story about Pence being on the call and going along with the plan days before Jan 6 is impossible. Mike Pence's book said his hero marine son reminded him on Christmas Eve that he wasn't supposed to overthrow the government even though President Trump was his dearest friend in the world.
And then everybody clapped. Especially baby Jesus, listening in his floating manger nearby with a wise and quiet smile. Which he learned in the Marines.