Trump Floats the Idea of Executing Joint Chiefs Chairman Milley

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Late Friday night, the former president of the United States—and a leading candidate to be the next president—insinuated that America’s top general deserves to be put to death.

That extraordinary sentence would be unthinkable in any other rich democracy. But Donald Trump, on his social-media network, Truth Social, wrote that Mark Milley’s phone call to reassure China in the aftermath of the storming of the Capitol on January 6, 2021, was “an act so egregious that, in times gone by, the punishment would have been DEATH.” (The phone call was, in fact, explicitly authorized by Trump-administration officials.) Trump’s threats against Milley came after The Atlantic’s publication of a profile of Milley, by this magazine’s editor in chief Jeffrey Goldberg, who detailed the ways in which Milley attempted to protect the Constitution from Trump.

And yet, none of the nation’s front pages blared “Trump Suggests That Top General Deserves Execution” or “Former President Accuses General of Treason.” Instead, the post barely made the news. Most Americans who don’t follow Trump on social media probably don’t even know it happened.

Trump’s rhetoric is dangerous, not just because it is the exact sort that incites violence against public officials but also because it shows just how numb the country has grown toward threats more typical of broken, authoritarian regimes. The United States is not just careening toward a significant risk of political violence around the 2024 presidential election. It’s also mostly oblivious to where it’s headed.

Trump loves to hide behind the thin veneer of plausible deniability, but he knows exactly what he’s doing. If a mob boss were to say, “In times gone by, people like you would have had their legs broken,” nobody would mistake that for a historical observation. The suggestion is clear, and it comes from a man who has one of America’s loudest megaphones—one that is directed squarely at millions of extremists who are well armed, who insist that the government is illegitimate, and who believe that people like Milley are part of a “deep state” plot against the country.

Academics have a formal term for exactly this type of incitement: stochastic terrorism. An influential figure with a large following demonizes a person or a group of people. The likelihood is strong that some small number of followers will take those words literally—when Trump implies that Milley deserves to be put to death, some of his disciples might take it as a marching order. The number of those who take action does not have to be large for the result to be horrific.

Already, one of Trump’s minions in Congress has echoed the incitement to violence. The Republican Paul Gosar of Arizona wrote—in his taxpayer-funded newsletter, no less—that “in a better society, quislings like the strange sodomy-promoting General Milley would be hung.” The meaning is not ambiguous: Gosar is explicitly saying that killing Milley would be desirable.

From the November 2023 Issue: The Patriot

As a political scientist who studies political violence across the globe, I would chalk up the lack of high-profile assassinations in the United States during the Trump and post-Trump era to dumb luck. Already in 2018, one deranged Trump follower, Cesar Sayoc, sent pipe bombs to public figures (and a media organization) who just so happened to be among those whom Trump most often attacked in his Twitter feed. Thankfully, nobody died—not because the dangers of Trump’s rhetoric were overstated but because Sayoc was bad at building bombs.

Heading toward one of the most consequential, divisive elections in American history, every ingredient in the deadly recipe for political violence is already in the mix: high-stakes, winner-take-all politics; widespread conspiratorial delusions that detach followers from objective realities; a suggestion that one’s political opponents aren’t “real Americans”; a large supply of violent extremists with easy access to deadly weaponry; and a movement whose leader takes every opportunity to praise those who have already participated in a deadly attack on the government.

Eventually, all luck runs out. Political violence is notoriously difficult to forecast with precision, but would anyone really be surprised if Trump’s violent rhetoric led to real-world attacks in the run-up to the 2024 election—or in its aftermath, if he loses?

For all of these reasons, Trump’s recent unhinged rant about Milley should be a wake-up call. But in today’s political climate, the incident barely registers. Trump scandals have become predictably banal. And American journalists have become golden retrievers watching a tennis-ball launcher. Every time they start to chase one ball, a fresh one immediately explodes into view, prompting a new chase.

Eventually, chasing tennis balls gets old. We become more alive to virtually any distraction: The media fixate on John Fetterman’s hoodie instead of on stories about the relentless but predictable risk of Trump-inspired political violence.

Bombarded by a constant stream of deranged authoritarian extremism from a man who might soon return to the presidency, we’ve lost all sense of scale and perspective. But neither the American press nor the public can afford to be lulled. The man who, as president, incited a violent attack on the U.S. Capitol in order to overturn an election is again openly fomenting political violence while explicitly endorsing authoritarian strategies should he return to power. That is the story of the 2024 election. Everything else is just window dressing.

victorvictor1 on September 26th, 2023 at 03:31 UTC »

Trump floated the idea of executing Joint Chiefs Chairman Milley (9-22-2023)

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Blamed Gold Star families for giving him covid (he tested positive days earlier)

removed POW/MIA flag from White House

says Americans who died in war are "losers" and "suckers"

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called McCain “a fucking loser” when asked to lower flags to half staff

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asked his staff to not include wounded veterans because amputees make him uncomfortable

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Trump knew since Mar 2020 that Russia paid bounties to kill American troops. On July 29 Trump defended Russia arming the Taliban against the US saying the US once did the same thing

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Said 26,000 military sexual assaults were to be 'expected' bc America lets women serve

Invited the Taliban to Camp David on the anniversary of 9/11

Claimed that his military budget made up for his lack of military experience

Said if a Humvee was hit by an IED, soldiers "go for a little ride upward & they come down."

Pardoned multiple war criminals which betrayed the men of the 1st Platoon who helped convict him for violating long standing military values, discipline, and command (May&Nov 2019)

mocked Lt. Col. Vindman for his rank and uniform. He threatened said purple heart officer resulting in the Army providing him protection. The Admin sent opposition research to the Pentagon to derail his promotion

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sent thousands of American troops to defend the oil assets of the country that perpetrated 9/11

Sept 2019, he made an Air Force cargo crew stop in Scotland (where there's no U.S. base) to refuel at a commercial airport (where it costs more), so they could stay overnight at a Trump property (which isn't close to the airport). Trump’s golf courses are losing money so he's forcing the military to pay for 5-star nights there.

Sept 2019, Pentagon pulled funds for military schools, military housing funds, and daycare to pay for Trump's border wall

Vet graves will be "dug up" for the border wall, after Trump instructed aides to seize private property. Trump told officials he would pardon them if they illegally seizing property

Children of deployed US troops no longer guaranteed citizenship (August 28, 2019)

8/2/19 Trump requisitioned military retirement funds for the border wall

7/31/19 Trump ordered the Navy rescind medals to prosecutors who prosecuted war criminals

denied a U.S. Marine of 6 years entry into the United States for his citizenship interview (Reported 7/17/19)

made the U.S. Navy Blue Angels violate ethics rules by having them fly at his July 4th political campaign event (July 4, 2019)

demanded US military chiefs stand next to him at 4th of July parade (reported July 2, 2019)

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used his D-Day interview at a cemetery commemorating fallen US soldiers to attack a Vietnam veteran (6/6/19)

started his D-Day commemoration speech by attacking a private citizen (Bette Midlere) (2019)

made his 2nd wife, Marla Maples, sign a prenup that would have cut off all child support if Tiffany joined the military (reported June 4th, 2019)

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ordered the USS John McCain out of sight during his visit to Japan (May 15, 2019). The ship's name was subsequently covered. (5/27/2019)

purged 200,000 vets' healthcare applications (reported 5/13/19)

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banned troops from serving based on gender identity (1/22/2019)

denied female troops access to birth control to limit sexual activity (Published 1/18/19)

tried to deport a marine vet who is a U.S.-born citizen (1/16/2019)

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called a retired general a 'dog' with a 'big, dumb mouth' (1/1/19)

increased privatization of the VA, leading to longer waits and higher taxpayer cost (2018)

finally visited troops 2 years after taking office, but only after 154 vacation days at his properties (10/26/18)

revealed a covert Seal Team 5 deployment including names and faces on Twitter during Iraq visit (Dec 26, 2018)

lied to deployed troops that he gave them a 10% raise (12/26/2018). Tried giving a raise that was lower than the standard living adjustment. After Congress made him give a raise, he lied about it pretending that it was larger than Obama's. It wasn't

fired service members living with HIV just before the 2018 holidays

tried to slash disability and unemployment benefits for Veterans to $0 and eliminate the unemployability extrascheduler rating (12/17/2018)

called troops on Thanksgiving and told them he's most thankful for himself (Thanksgiving, 2018)

urged Florida to not count deployed military votes (11/12/2018)

canceled an Arlington Cemetery visit on Veterans Day due to light rain (11/12/2018)

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changed the GI Bill through his Forever GI Act causing the VA to miss benefits, including housing allowances. This caused many vets to run out of food and rent. (reported 10/7/18)

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deported active-duty spouses (11,800 military families face this problem as of April 2018)

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ordered the discharge of active-duty immigrant troops with good records (2017-present)

deported veterans (2017-present)

said he knows more about ISIS than American generals (Oct 2016)

10/4/16 Trump said vets get PTSD because they aren't strong

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Trump attacks Gold Star families: Myeshia Johnson (gold star widow), Khan family (gold star parents) etc. (2016-present)

In Jan 2016, Trump stole funds meant for a veterans charity (his foundation was subsequently ordered shut down)

said he has "more training militarily than a lot of the guys that go into the military" because he went to a military-style academy (2015 biography)

said he doesn't consider POWs heroes because they were caught. He said he prefers people who weren't caught (July 18, 2015)

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Trump dodged the draft 5 times by having a doctor diagnose him with bone spurs.

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Fellowshipofthebowl on September 26th, 2023 at 01:39 UTC »

inciting violence, again

Etna_No_Pyroclast on September 26th, 2023 at 01:34 UTC »

Trump needs consequences for this shit.