ANZ reimburses $460k to customer targeted by scammers shortly before dementia diagnosis

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Quick Read In short: When Victor Shaw's dad lost his life savings in a scam, he held out little hope the money would be reimbursed.

When Victor Shaw's dad lost his life savings in a scam, he held out little hope the money would be reimbursed. But ANZ has admitted it "could have done more" to support its customer, who was diagnosed with dementia shortly after the money was stolen.

But ANZ has admitted it "could have done more" to support its customer, who was diagnosed with dementia shortly after the money was stolen. Victims rarely recoup their cash, with the big four banks reimbursing only $21 million out of more than half a billion dollars lost through scams in 2021-22.

Victims rarely recoup their cash, with the big four banks reimbursing only $21 million out of more than half a billion dollars lost through scams in 2021-22. What's next?: The bank has agreed to repay $460,000, noting the 78-year-old's vulnerability, and the fact he'd fallen victim to smaller scams in the past.

Victor Shaw was at the bank with his father Alex when he first found out about the missing money.

"Your dad has been the victim of a scam," the ANZ staff member informed him this year.

Like many Australians, 78-year-old Alex Shaw had been targeted by scammers before.

But Victor had no idea about the latest issue.

"My dad hadn't shared this with me," the Anglican church rector said.

"Whether that was because he didn't want to bother me or because he was a bit confused about it, I'm not really sure."

What was clear, however, was the magnitude of the scam.

"I found out that he lost pretty much most of his life savings," Victor said.

Victor Shaw wants to share his father's story in the hope that others will not fall victim to similar scams. ( ABC News: Simon Farrell )

In total, almost half a million dollars had been pilfered from his father's account.

"It was just really awful trying to wrap my head around that and then go, 'OK, what are we doing now?'" he said.

Victor knew the chances of getting the money back were extremely slim.

Of more than half-a-billion dollars lost through scams at Australia's big four banks in 2021-22, only $21 million was paid back in reimbursements or compensation.

Victor's father Alex was diagnosed with dementia shortly after being scammed. ( Supplied: Victor Shaw )

To have any hope of recouping the funds, Victor needed to understand how Alex had been deceived, and whether ANZ had done enough to prevent it.

But getting a straight answer out of his dad was difficult.

For several years, he'd noticed his dad's mental faculties declining.

And shortly after being scammed this year, Alex was diagnosed with dementia.

"Day to day, he's kind of fine," Victor said.

"But that higher-level paperwork kind-of-stuff [like] managing finances … was just really beyond him. Getting the straight narrative as to what had happened … I couldn't really work it out."

But without realising it, his dad had created an informal paper trail of his interactions with the scammers.

As a meticulous notetaker, Alex had jotted down dates, names, and details of conversations each time a stranger had contacted him.

In several instances, his notes indicate he was told to purchase hundreds of dollars' worth of Apple gift cards at the supermarket, and then provide the serial numbers to a caller in Thailand.

Other notes suggest he was encouraged to transfer money into a cryptocurrency account, or to click on links that promised thousands of dollars in grant money.

There were also references in the notes to "AnyDesk".

Victor Shaw, who is rector of St George’s Anglican Church in Hobart, says he was "blown away" with the bank's response. ( ABC News: Simon Farrell )

After searching online, Victor found out AnyDesk is a type of software that, once downloaded, can be used by scammers to remotely access devices.

He believes this was the main way his dad's account was fleeced.

Alex's bank records show that several sums of between $10,000 and $25,000 were initially transferred to an unknown individual's account.

Victor said ANZ's fraud detection system then suspended his dad's account due to the suspicious transactions.

But the account was later reactivated, and the scam transactions continued over a couple of weeks until there was no money left.

Victor Shaw holds the notes made by his father Alex during the scam phone calls. ( ABC News: Simon Farrell )

Alex's notes indicate the scammers had "coached" him how to get ANZ to reactivate his account, without realising that doing so would further compromise his money.

"Ask them to unlock my account. Do not mention AnyDesk," Alex wrote after one conversation with the scammers, who instructed him on what to say.

In a letter, the bank admitted it "could have done more to support Mr Shaw given his history with scams". ( ABC News: Brendan Esposito )

Victor lodged a formal complaint with ANZ but wasn't optimistic about a positive outcome.

"They just said, 'Look, we're going to try and recover it, normally we can get a little bit, but don't hold out too much hope.'"

But three months after his dad's account was drained, the bank sent Victor a letter that left him stunned.

"Following our review of this matter … ANZ recognises that it could have done more to support Mr Shaw given his history with scams," the bank stated.

"Considering Mr Shaw's vulnerability and the impact the scam has had on him, we will reimburse the scam transactions totalling $460,174.04."

"Every single person I've spoken to about this has been very surprised, and it was not what we were expecting at all.

"We thought we might get a few thousand dollars back or something. But [it's an] incredible relief.

"I was just completely blown away. Absolutely astonished."

Alex Shaw's bank account was emptied by scammers despite initially being suspended under a fraud detection system. ( Supplied: Victor Shaw )

In a statement, ANZ said scams were an "insidious problem" affecting the entire community.

"Unfortunately, we do see instances when cyber criminals target some of our most vulnerable customers," said Shaq Johnson, the bank's head of customer protection.

"Due to the callous nature of this illegal activity, criminals will coach and emotionally manipulate their victims to gain access to their bank accounts and funds."

He would not elaborate on how ANZ could have done more to support Alex, or why the bank decided to refund all the money.

But Mr Johnson said the bank actively engages with customers considered more at risk of scams to better protect them.

"The ways in which cyber criminals are scamming and defrauding customers is constantly evolving," he said.

"ANZ is continually reviewing and adjusting our capabilities to keep customers safe."

People with dementia at higher risk

Dementia Australia, which advocates for the 400,000 Australians living with the condition, said people with dementia were particularly vulnerable to deception.

"The reason why, is that as people's dementia progresses they do lose the ability to assess risk and also to manage their financial affairs," the organisation's chief executive, Maree McCabe, said.

"It's really important that there are a trusted group of people that are supporting somebody living with dementia, and that they are aware of their vulnerabilities and ensure that they do everything they can to protect them."

Victor Shaw hopes others will have conversations with ageing parents to help them avoid falling victim to scams. ( ABC News: Simon Farrell )

Victor has now set up power of attorney with the bank to ensure Alex's finances are kept in order.

He hopes that by sharing his dad's story, other families can prevent similar scams being perpetrated against loved ones.

"As Australians, we don't like to talk about money – it's a bit of a private topic," he said.

"But I think this is one of those things where, as our parents age, it's really good to be having these conversations early and to be putting in place some of those mechanisms."

phatelectribe on September 16th, 2023 at 17:09 UTC »

It great that they’re doing this. My grandfather was scammed out of $100k over a period of two years by a taxi driver who must have realized he had dementia. We think my grandfather tried to pay after having already paid and the driver then started driving him to the bank every day to withdraw money, on the way to his outpatient care center.

The bank manager / tellers got suspicious (why does a 78 year old man need to constantly withdraw cash etc?) and alerted the police and my family. Police were called each time he came but the driver would leave when it took too long. Eventually they caught him when the bank asked the driver to help walk him out and he was arrested charged.

Sadly, before it could go to trial, the arresting officer was badly injured in a traffic accident, his partner then retired and the case fell apart.

We never got a penny back and the bank didn’t offer anything even though it was going on for months and my grandpa had been a client for 40+ years.

The only silver lining was the taxi driver eventually did go to prison for an unrelated fraud.

TurbulentPromise4812 on September 16th, 2023 at 16:20 UTC »

An Australian bank refunded the guy's money and is helping to stop the scammer and recover the losses.

Bank of America: "haha sucks to be u loser, pay us overdraft fees"

KnightBourne on September 16th, 2023 at 15:58 UTC »

Wow, as scamming is on the rise I really hope that behaviour like this will set an precedent.

I’m certain in Canada that we would be hung out to dry.