More Trump indictments would give Biden and Democrats huge 2024 boost, poll finds

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President Joe Biden would be vaulted to a massive lead over Donald Trump if the former president faces further criminal charges from the federal and state criminal investigations into his conduct, according to a new poll obtained by The Independent.

The poll of 1,571 registered voters was conducted by WPA Research, a Republican polling firm. The CEO of WPA is an adviser to Never Back Down, the Super PAC supporting Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, but the survey was conducted independently without his input and was not sponsored by the Super PAC.

It found that voters currently prefer Mr Biden over Mr Trump by a margin of 47 per cent to 40 per cent, including a 14-point lead for the sitting president among registered Independents.

That’s five points worse than the nine-point deficit among Independents that led to Mr Trump losing to Mr Biden in 2020.

The twice-impeached ex-president would also be a drag for down-ballot Republicans if he appears on the top line of a 2024 general election ballot, with Democrats holding a five-point advantage on a generic congressional ballot, 47 per cent to 42 per cent.

Although the WPA poll found dismal polling results for Mr Trump at the time of the survey, his chances of beating Mr Biden would become even more remote if he were to face charges from the state and federal prosecutors currently weighing whether to seek indictments against the ex-president.

According to the survey, the seven-point deficit between the former and current president would grow by 10 points if he is indicted by Fulton County, Georgia, District Attorney Fani Willis, the prosecutor who supervised a special grand jury probe into Mr Trump’s efforts to overturn his 2020 election loss in the Peach State.

Were Ms Willis to successfully seek an indictment against Mr Trump from a grand jury, Mr Biden’s advantage would grow to ten points, 49 per cent to 39 percent.

Among Independents, Mr Trump’s deficit would grow to 21 points, with 50 per cent saying they’d vote for Mr Biden if he is indicted in Georgia compared with 29 percent who said they’d vote for the ex-president.

The investigation into Mr Trump’s alleged unlawful retention of classified documents would put him in slightly more electoral peril if the prosecutor overseeing that probe, Special Counsel Jack Smith, convinces a grand jury to approve charges against the former president.

If Mr Smith successfully obtains an indictment against Mr Trump, he would face an 11-point deficit against Mr Biden, who would lead him by a margin of 50 per cent to 39 per cent.

Mr Biden’s advantage among Independents would be 21 points strong, 50 per cent to 30 per cent.

The survey did find that 68 per cent of Republicans would “definitely” vote for the ex-president if he is indicted in either case, but Mr Biden’s margin against him would nonetheless grow because Mr Trump would lose five percentage points of support from GOP voters.

Losing five per cent of Republican support would give Mr Biden two more percentage points of support from GOP voters, rising from five per cent to seven per cent.

Mr Trump’s share of GOP respondents who said they’d “probably” vote to give a second term also falls from 13 per cent to nine per cent if he is indicted in Georgia, and the number of currently “undecided” self-identified GOP voters would increase from nine to 10 per cent if he is indicted in Georgia, with that number growing to 11 per cent if he is indicted by a federal grand jury;

Amanda Iovino, a Principal at WPA, said in a statement that Mr Biden “would be spared a much-needed one-way trip to Delaware” if Mr Trump ends up the GOP nominee in next year’s general election.

“Contrary to what one may hear on Truth Social, Trump’s indictment, in either the pending Georgia or federal cases, would energize Democrats, not Republicans, potentially producing the worst loss for a GOP presidential candidate in 60 years. In the process, Republicans would lose control of the House and forego pick-up opportunities in the Senate,” she said.

mountaintop111 on May 17th, 2023 at 22:40 UTC »

Trump supporters keep disingenuously asking what crimes has Trump committed. The Manhattan DA case by Alvin Bragg isn't the only crime that Trump may have committed. He is under investigation for other crimes as well:

Georgia is investigating him for his interference in the 2020 election. Trump has been on tape asking the Georgia Secretary of State to find 11780 votes.

Jack Smith, appointed as Special Counsel, is investigating Trump for Trump's classified material handling, and worse, Trump's possible obstruction of the FBI when they asked Trump to return the classified material.

Jack Smith is also investigating Trump for Trump's actions leading up to, and including, January 6th.

Here are the other crimes of Donald Trump:

Trump also could have been indicted for his crimes in the Trump Organization, the same crimes that his CFO, Allan Weisselberg has been charged for. The Trump Organization has already been found guilty on all counts of criminal tax fraud.

Trump was also found by Mueller to have obstructed justice up to 10 times.

In addition, these are the other criminals that were hired or affiliated with Donald Trump:

His National Security Advisor, Michael Flynn pled guilty to lying to the FBI His campaign chairman was convicted on 8 counts. 10 counts were a mistrial. A Trump supporter on the jury, Paula Duncan, convicted Manafort on all 18 counts. His deputy campaign chairman, Rick Gates, pled guilty His personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, pled guilty His foreign policy advisor on his campaign, George Papadopoulos, has pled guilty to lying to the FBI for contacts with Kremlin-connected Russians His long time advisor and associate, Mr Stone, was found guilty on 7 counts His Whitehouse chief strategist, Steve Bannon, was indicted for fraud in the border wall fundraising campaign His assistant and Director of Trade and Manufacturing Policy, Peter Navarro, was indicted for Contempt of Congress

DriftlessDairy on May 17th, 2023 at 22:27 UTC »

Forget the political implications. Trump should be indicted because he committed crimes. Hard stop.

spew_on_u on May 17th, 2023 at 22:19 UTC »

On the national level. The Department of Justice has appointed a special counsel to look into two broad areas: the classified documents found at his Florida estate Mar-a-Lago and efforts to interfere with the 2020 election.

In New York state. The New York attorney general is behind a civil lawsuit alleging the Trump Organization lied to lenders and insurers about its assets.

In Georgia. The district attorney in Fulton County, Georgia, is considering charges surrounding efforts by the former president and his allies to overturn the 2020 election there.