Trump refuses to denounce white supremacism and instead tells Proud Boys to ‘stand back and stand by'

Authored by independent.co.uk and submitted by rebelliousmuse

Donald Trump invoked a far-right group tied to violence after refusing to condemn white supremacism during his first debate appearance with Democratic candidate Joe Biden.

In a stunning and rare quiet moment in the chaotic debate, moderator Chris Wallace asked the president whether he is “willing to condemn white supremacists and militia groups and they need to stand down.”

“I’m willing to do that,” the president said, adding that “almost everything I see is from the left wing, not from the right-wing. … I want to see peace.”

Pressed by Mr Wallace to denounce violent white nationalism, the president paused, then asked for a name.

He said: "Proud Boys, stand back and stand by, but I'll tell you what, I’ll tell you what, somebody's gotta do something about antifa and the left because this is not a right-wing problem, this is a left-wing problem."

The self-described “western chauvinist” Proud Boys, identified by the Southern Poverty Law Centre as a hate group, was established by VICE Media co-founder Gavin McInnes in 2016.

Though the group has claimed it represents an “anti-white guilt agenda” against “political correctness" as well as the “alt-right” label, the group’s founder and members have embraced white nationalism and espoused fascist views, including anti-Muslim and misogynistic rhetoric, often turning to violence.

The Proud Boys are among a “fascistic, right-wing political bloc” galvanised by the president and encouraged by his supporters, according to SPLC senior research analyst Cassie Miller.

“They work symbiotically with right-wing media and a power structure – helmed by Trump – that is eager to clamp down on protesters and enact political revenge on progressive constituencies like Portland,” wrote Ms Miller, arguing that the group and similarly motivated far-right groups are among political cudgels for the administration’s street-level election campaign.

On the right-wing social media app Parler, Proud Boys members celebrated the recognition on the debate stage.

FBI director Christopher Wray warned in February that “racially motivated violent extremism” in the US, particularly from white nationalists, is as significant a threat as Isis and other foreign terror groups.

Mr Biden pointed that out to Mr Trump during the debate, as the candidates moved on.

The president has repeatedly refused to condemn the rise of white supremacist violence in the US.

In his 2016 campaign, he refused to denounce former Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke and insisted there were “very fine people” on both sides of a white supremacist “Unite the Right” demonstration in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017, where a neo-Nazi killed antiracist protester Heather Heyer after driving into a crowd.

“Dog whistling through a bullhorn is what he’s doing," vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris told MSNBC after the debate.

TimeTravelingMouse on September 30th, 2020 at 03:16 UTC »

“Will you renounce white supremacy?”

“Sure.”

“Then do it.”

“Do what?”

GOPniks2 on September 30th, 2020 at 03:01 UTC »

Since conservatives often go into these threads to dispute the proud boys links to white supremacy:

The turn toward violence — and the blurring borders between ‘alt-lite’ and ‘alt-right’ — is typified by Brien James, the state representative for the Indiana Proud Boys and a member of FOAK. James gained his racist skinhead credentials in the Outlaw Hammerskins and the Hoosier State Skinheads before becoming one of the founding members of the Vinlanders Social Club (VSC), a racist gang known for its extreme violence. Since its creation in 2003, the VSC has been linked to at least nine murders nationwide. James once bragged that his Joint Terrorism Task Force file was “a mile long,” and allegedly nearly beat a man to death for refusing to Seig Heil at a party. Source

Here is the leader of the New York chapter of the Proud Boys taking a selfie with David Duke

Here is the leader of the Sacremento Chapter of Proud Boys Gabe Silva bragging about marching with neo-nazis and the Klan in Charlottesville

Here is Gavin Mcinnes the founder of the Proud Boys wearing a t-shirt of a notorious neo-nazi skinhead band

They have marched with racist groups like with Identity Evropa and the Rise Above Movement in Berkley.

SuperOliverTwist on September 30th, 2020 at 02:56 UTC »

Be wary of paramilitaries. When the men with guns who have always claimed to be against the system start wearing uniforms and marching with torches and pictures of a leader, the end is nigh. When the pro-leader paramilitary and the official police and military intermingle, the end has come.

-Timothy Snyder, Historian