I saved 15% or more on car insurance by switching my gender : alberta

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That’s right, I changed my gender for cheaper auto-insurance. Proof:

Before I get into this, don’t try to distinguish the words “gender” and “sex.” Having gone through this process, it seems they are the same thing, at least, to the Government of Alberta.

I saved more like 25%. I’m in my early twenty’s, I live in Alberta, Canada; I just bought a new car. When financing a new vehicle, it’s required that you must have full insurance coverage on it (includes collision insurance). So I get a quote from my insurance company. I’ve had a minor collision, and a couple speeding tickets. How much for my auto insurance?: $4517. I was disappointed to say the least and this was after we did everything to bring the premium down. So I ask “Out of curiosity, how much would my premium be if I was a woman?” The broker comes back with a quote of $3423. Holy fuck.

I was shocked. I was thinking it would be, you know, $50 to $150 difference. Nope! Over a $1000 difference annually. ~1100 bones!

The broker says, “Oh it’s not just us who discriminate, it’s all insurance companies.” I said, “yeah I know, that’s actually worse.” The broker explains to me that it is illegal to discriminate on the basis of gender when it comes to basic auto-insurance. When it comes to collision, however, it’s still legal to discriminate against genders on the basis of contrast in driving-statistics. So I began asking more questions and digging deeper into what would happen to my auto-policy if I did change my gender. The broker assured me they would re-adjust my auto-policy on the day my gender changed. Right then and there I was determined to change my gender.

To change my gender on my auto-policy I needed to change my gender on my Driver’s License. To change my gender on my driver’s license I first needed to amend it on my birth certificate. So I called the Government of Alberta and they said they’d send me the forms to get the process started. After that she said they will send me another batch of forms which included a requirement being a physician must write a letter saying that I am a woman. I thought I was stopped right there. I don’t want surgery! I thought gender was a state of mind in Canada and Alberta now. I was let down, but thankfully I was mistaken. Gender is a state of mind in Canada and therefore Alberta. I approached this sub in a post telling you guys how my shortly lived endeavor came to an abrupt end. I thought having to see a physician implied I had to have surgery. Silly me /s. The folks over at r/Mensrights directed me to a video of Lauren Southern (also Canadian) doing the exact same thing. r/Mensrights sub further convinced me that doctors are obligated to write me the letter I want. It’s dumb: they are medical doctors, not psychologists. As the form stated, I was allowed to change my Sex if my gender didn’t match my body. Doesn’t make much sense. But whatever. I followed the requirements: one being the doctor’s letter, and two getting an affidavit notarized. The whole process was easy. Overall, it costed me ~$100 to change my gender.

I am now a woman. I wasn’t one last year. As you could see, I received my new birth certificate that states I am officially a woman. After I changed my gender on my driver’s license (and also my Alberta Health care coincidentally) I called up my insurance company and they adjusted my rate. I now pay $1100 less for auto-insurance. I won. The end.

For anyone who thinks it isn’t gender-discrimination or think it’s justified, the broker (a woman) actually agreed with me that it is in fact discrimination against men because the insurance companies are not insuring all men collectively, they are insuring the individual. To add, poor driving is a behavioral trait, not a biological one. Moreover, as people have stated in this sub, the negative statistics are largely in-part due to men simply driving more. It’s odd though because Insurance companies already factor in annual mileage. Seems like a double-dip. Nonetheless, men’s rates are significantly higher solely based on what gender they are. It’s not right that my friend drives like a grandpa and his record is as clean as a whistle but he pays more than that if he were a woman who drives like a maniac. That is textbook discrimination. And if I still haven’t convinced you that it’s discrimination, think if insurance companies collected stats on race, and found that Asian drivers cause more accidents. If the insurance company adjusted their rates based on that, that would be racist. It would be guaranteed to make the national news and accumulate severe legal action from private parties and governments. One more thing: the huge contrast in auto-insurance rates obstructs trans-men from legally changing their gender to “male” on the fact that they will pay more for auto-insurance. I believe in a free LGBTQ society. Too bad they still face this hurdle. For them, it’s a real factor to consider.

*Disclaimer I must say (for anyone who tries to report me) that I didn’t legally change my sex solely for cheaper auto-insurance, though, that was and is a big factor for me and other people who suffer from gender-dysphoria.

Edit: Apparently birth certificates aren't enough proof for some people. More proof: https://imgur.com/a/C2KpOU6

vynusmagnus on April 30th, 2018 at 00:13 UTC »

Something similar happened to me, but it was by accident. For some reason, the DMV thinks I'm female. When I got my license originally at 16, I told them about the mistake but they didn't fix it. When I renewed it, I told them again and they still didn't fix it. But when I buy insurance, the cost is always lower than the quote (~$150/year). I assume that's because when I get the quote I say I'm male, but when they run the license number, it shows I'm female.

As far as I'm concerned, I've asked them to fix it but they won't. What am I supposed to do?

Edu_Campi on April 29th, 2018 at 22:59 UTC »

One at my country did it to retire 5 years early (Men retire at 65 and woman at 60)

SageKnows on April 29th, 2018 at 21:52 UTC »

Thank God in EU it is now illegal to charge higher premiums based on gender