France mulls new law on sexual consent after men acquitted of raping 11-year-olds

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France could introduce a law to rule that anyone aged under 13 is automatically considered unable to consent to sex after a 28-year-old man was acquitted of raping an 11-year-old because the relations were deemed consensual.

Though it is already illegal in France to have sex with someone aged under 15 rape charges are only brought if prosecutors can prove it was non-consensual.

Currently there is no legal minimum age below which it is presumed in law that a child cannot give consent, which would then automatically bring about rape charges.

But equalities minister Marléne Schiappa wants a legal minimum age set which she said could be 13 or 15-years-old.

"The law will mean that 'below a certain age, there can be no debate, ever, on the sexual consent of a child, and that any child below a certain age would automatically be considered as raped or sexually assaulted'," Schiappa said.

Schiappa was speaking out after two recent cases in France hprovoked shock and outrage and highlighted a need to change the laws.

The jurors at the criminal court in the Seine-et-Marne district outside Paris ruled on Tuesday after two days of trial hearings that the elements that

constitute rape such as "coercion, threat, violence and surprise were not established", said public prosecutor Dominique Laurens.

At the man's suggestion, the girl is understood to have agreed to follow him home from a park in Montmagny, to the north of Paris. He had reportedly promised to teach her how to kiss. But once at the apartment the man had sexual relations with the girl.

The girl's family and legal team were insistent that the man should face rape charges, saying the girl was "paralyzed" by fear and "unable to defend herself".

But to their anger and to the shock of many in France prosecutors decided to only charge the man with sexual abuse of a minor (atteinte sexuel).

Their reasoning was that “there was no violence, no constraint, no threat, and no surprise" on the part of the man to justify the charge of rape.

Essentially they judged that she had consented to the sexual encounter because she was not physically forced into the act.

Following the case children's rights group Le Voix de l'Enfant said in a statement: “The question of consent or its absence should never even be asked when it comes to rape victims who are minors”.

Other groups had also joined the call for the French legal system to introduce a legal age under which sexual consent is never presumed.

Asked about the case, Schiappa replied that "as a member of the government", she could "not react to court decisions."

Nevertheless the government envisages bringing in a new law next year that will set a minimum age of consent and if the child is under that age then any sexual relations that have taken place will automatically lead to rape or sexual assault charges.

V_i_d_E on November 13rd, 2017 at 14:50 UTC »

highly misleading title.

The man was 20 years old then and the girl claimed to be 15 (which would make it legal if France if she hadn't lie) when she was actually 11. The man was found not guilty of rape because there was no proof she did not consent and no proof of coercing her into the sexual act from the man. Furthermore, she lied to him about her age, but the jury did not found him non guilty at all. He was charged instead with: sexual abuse of minor under 15 yo and convicted for it. The prosecution is appealing so a new trial will likely provide a bigger sentence.

I am not trying to defend the guy and I am 100% for such a law, but they were already working on the law for months, the judgement is only a coincidence.

Edit: sorry for my poor choice of words at times. English isn't my mother tongue. I corrected a couple of things

edit 2: it has been brought to me that there are 2 different cases ongoing with similar charges. I genuinely only read about one and found no mention of a case close to this one. I might be wrong though

edit 3: lack of coercion added as it has been mentioned as well (sorry for not crediting everybody, I'm on my mobile and it is quite inconvenient to edit).

humus_intake on November 13rd, 2017 at 14:35 UTC »

/r/titlegore

ReasonablyBadass on November 13rd, 2017 at 12:27 UTC »

They aren't currently?