Canada won't do business with Boeing while it's 'busy trying to sue us,' Trudeau says

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Canada won't do business with Boeing while it's 'busy trying to sue us,' Trudeau says

Visiting Theresa May says she'll raise the trade aerospace dispute with U.S. President Donald Trump this week

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In their meeting on Parliament Hill Monday, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, right, and British Prime Minister Theresa May discussed Boeing's trade complaint against Montreal-based Bombardier, which is a major employer in Northern Ireland. (The Canadian Press)

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau dropped the gloves Monday in his fight with Boeing, saying the government won't do business with a company that he's accusing of attacking Canadian industry and trying to put aerospace employees out of work.

Trudeau's broadside represents the strongest Canadian rhetoric yet against the U.S. aerospace giant since Boeing launched a trade dispute with Montreal-based rival Bombardier earlier this year.

It also leaves little doubt that the Liberals are serious about walking away from a controversial plan to purchase 18 so-called "interim" Super Hornet fighter jets from Boeing if the company doesn't stand down.

Indeed, Trudeau also appeared to leave the door open to excluding Super Hornets entirely from any future competition to replace more broadly Canada's aging fleet of CF-18 jets with 88 new planes.

Such a move would be difficult given international trade laws, but if successful, it could represent a major blow to Boeing: the 88 new jets are expected to cost between $15 billion and $19 billion.

The U.S. State Department estimated last week that it would cost Canada more than $6 billion to buy 18 interim Super Hornets.

"We have obviously been looking at the Super Hornet aircraft from Boeing as a potential significant procurement of our new fighter jets," Trudeau said during a news conference on Parliament Hill.

"But we won't do business with a company that's busy trying to sue us and trying to put our aerospace workers out of business."

Trudeau was appearing alongside British Prime Minister Theresa May, who said Canada and the U.K. would work together to defend Bombardier, which has a factory in Northern Ireland.

May said she has already made her feelings clear in a phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump, someone Trudeau also said would be hearing from Canada on the matter of Boeing vs. Bombardier.

"I will raise the issue of Bombardier when I meet with him again later this week," said May.

"I will be impressing upon him the importance of Bombardier to the United Kingdom, and particularly, obviously, to jobs in Northern Ireland."

Bombardier president Alain Bellemare was one of several Canadian business representatives who later took part in a roundtable with May organized by the British High Commission in Ottawa, but it wasn't clear whether the two had a chance to discuss the matter.

Boeing has accused Bombardier of selling its CSeries passenger jets to a U.S. airline at an unfairly low price with help from government subsidies, and says the case affects its long-term economic health.

The U.S. Commerce Department is currently investigating the complaint, and is expected to release its preliminary findings next week and a finding against Bombardier could result in fines or tariffs.

The federal government and Boeing had been in secret talks to try to find a negotiated settlement, but those discussions broke down in August. Since then, the dispute has escalated publicly and in dramatic fashion.

"We will continue to stand up for jobs and stand up for the excellent airplane that is the Bombardier CSeries aircraft," Trudeau said.

"The action that Boeing has taken is very much in their narrow economic interests, to harm a potential competitor, and quite frankly is not in keeping with the kind of openness to trade that we know benefits citizens in all countries around the world."

In a statement released Monday, Boeing accused Bombardier of a "classic case of dumping" by offering the CSeries for sale in the U.S. "at absurdly low prices" after it "sold poorly in the marketplace.

"No one is saying Bombardier cannot sell its aircraft anywhere in the world. But sales must be according to globally accepted trade law, not violating those rules seeking to boost flatlining business artificially," the statement said.

"We all have a shared interest in a level playing field. That is what this dispute is about."

boeingb17 on September 19th, 2017 at 00:39 UTC »

Some more insight to this: Boeing won a deal at United several months before Delta bought the C Series by offering a lower price for bigger airplanes.

At a recent conference, several Boeing executives were bragging about "owning the ITC" and were not worried about the outcome. Their record of getting the ITC to rule in favor of Boeing is nothing short of disgusting, but justifies their arrogance.

The ITC lies within the department of commerce, ultimately answering to Donald Trump. This is a big reason why Boeing took out a full page ad in several national newspapers congratulating Trump on his first 100 days in office. Give them credit. They know how to grease the wheels.

There is a great article on Forbes that explains why this is such a story: Boeing Takes Trade Law Abuse To A Whole New Level

raven1121 on September 18th, 2017 at 22:28 UTC »

What's Boeing's motive in pursuing a lawsuit?

i'm surprised Boeing is risking a military contract just because they feel Bombardier is lowballing the CSeries order prices. the largest CSeries is beat by the 737-700 in seats and the 737 Max 7 in range and seats. The CSeries poses more to a threat to Embraer or Mitsubishi than Boeing

and its not like Boeing is above lowballing a order price

If Boeing really wanted to sue a company that directly impacts their sales in a market they are focus in they would have picked Airbus

metroid_dragon on September 18th, 2017 at 22:06 UTC »

Boeing is complaining about government subsidies that allowed Bombardier to sell their aircraft at "unfairly low prices". Yet I find it hard to believe that Boeing doesn't get many times the subsidies as Bombardier. Even if most of that is defence based, no funding truly exists in a vacuum.