The Daily Populous Thursday February 6th, 2025 day edition
Authored by vanityfair.com and submitted by digitalapostate

At eight o’clock on a morning ravaged by sharp winds, 300 South African coal miners sat on the stone steps of a makeshift amphitheater on the edge of a soccer field.

They hugged themselves against the chill. In the distance, four squat, beige smokestacks rimmed with black were belching up clouds of silent white smoke. A safety sign above the miners’ heads declared, FINGERS DON’T GROW ON TREES. In recent months, with paychecks coming less and less frequently, many of the miners were starving. They were meeting this morning to decide whether to strike. As they listened to their union leader outline the options, they all knew whom to blame: the Guptas.

The three Gupta brothers—Ajay, Atul, and Rajesh—had bought the Optimum Coal Mine in December 2015, adding it to the tentacular empire they were building across South Africa, with interests in uranium deposits, media outlets, computer companies, and arms suppliers. The miners, the union leader told me, would watch as the Guptas landed their helicopter in the parched soccer field with its rusty goalposts, only to swagger around with their gun-toting white bodyguards and take their kids to the mine vents without protective gear. Sometimes, when the brothers were in a magnanimous mood, they would dole out fistfuls of cash to miners who had been particularly obsequious that day. At the same time, they cut corners viciously. Health insurance and pensions were slashed. Broken machines were patched up with old parts from other machines. Safety regulations were flouted.

Then, a few months after the Guptas bought the mine, a tectonic corruption scandal upended South Africa. A government official testified that the Guptas had offered him the position of finance minister; the three brothers, it turned out, had effectively seized control of the state apparatus. It was, to date, one of the most audacious and lucrative scams of the century. Drawing on their close ties to President Jacob Zuma—and with the help of leading international firms like KPMG, McKinsey, and SAP—the Guptas may have drained the national treasury of as much as $7 billion. Zuma was forced to resign. McKinsey offered an extraordinary public apology for its role in the scandal. The Guptas fled to Dubai. And the mine, which the brothers had obtained in a corrupt deal brokered and financed by the government, tipped into bankruptcy.

The miners were among the ground-level casualties of complex schemes engineered on pieces of paper. In the months following the bankruptcy, they rioted and burned tires and courted arrest; today’s meeting was, by contrast, a rather sanguine affair. But now, as my colleague and I edged toward the discussion, things once again erupted.

All of the miners in the field, save for a couple of mythically wizened white faces, were black. Yet the men who wrecked the mine—along with much of South Africa’s economy—were, like my colleague Dhashen and me, of Indian origin. As Dhashen lumbered to the front of the crowd and began taking pictures with his iPhone, the miners suddenly stopped talking. For a moment, there was silence. Then, almost as one, they began jeering and shouting.

LiamGovender02 on February 6th, 2025 at 04:42 UTC »

To a certain extent yes, though in South Africa's case the Gupta's were only concerned with money, while Elon Musk seems to have both a Financial and Ideological Interest in Capturing the US government. But it is a pretty terrifying thought, because state capture could do far more damage to the US than it did to South Africa.

South Africa doesn't have the same history of Institutional Strength the US has, but we do have very strict constitutionalism. Our constitution was drawn up in the 90s and was specifically designed to prevent the capture of many institutions that had happened under Apartheid by ideological interests. That strict constitutionalism shielded our most important institution from the worst rot, and is ultimately why South Africa's democracy survived the Zuma years.

US institutions aren't built on strict constitutionalism (it's pretty hard to do that for a document drawn up in the 18th century), rather they are built on norms. The reason they remained strong for so long is because US politicians were very committed to maintaining those norms regardless of partisan affiliation. But that has since changed, with both Trump and the Republicans being far less interested in maintaining norms.

The thing about norms is that they're not laws, they can be legally broken, so US institutions are in far more jeopardy.

One_Roof_101 on February 6th, 2025 at 03:46 UTC »

To me it looks more like he is following the path of Hungary

Sweetchildofmine88 on February 6th, 2025 at 03:38 UTC »

https://ecfr.eu/publication/the-orbanisation-of-america-hungarys-lessons-for-donald-trump/