DOJ no longer believes Trump should have immunity from Carroll defamation lawsuit

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The Justice Department has reversed course and said it no longer believes that Donald Trump should be entitled to immunity for his response to E. Jean Carroll’s accusation of sexual assault, allowing the civil lawsuit to move forward to trial in January.

The change in position eliminates one legal hurdle surrounding Carroll’s 2019 defamation lawsuit against Trump for statements he made while president, denying her allegation of rape decades earlier, that he didn’t know her, and that she wasn’t his “type.”

DOJ lawyers said in a letter to lawyers for Trump and Carroll that “the Department has determined that it lacks adequate evidence” to conclude the former president was acting within the scope of his employment or serving the US government “when he denied sexually assaulting Ms. Carroll and made the other statements regarding Ms. Carroll that she has challenged in this action.”

Initially, the Justice Department under both the Trump and Biden administrations said Trump was acting within the scope of his duties when responding to reporters’ questions in 2019 about Carroll’s allegations. That essentially meant that the Justice Department would be substituted as a defendant and the case would likely be dismissed.

The case has been held up on appeal over what constitutes the scope of an employees’ duties until a Washington, DC, court provided guidance this spring, sending the case back to the judge. The DOJ was given until Thursday to state its position. Trump’s and Carroll’s lawyers will also have an opportunity to weigh in.

In addition, in a separate lawsuit brought by Carroll last year under a New York law allowing a one-year lookback for civil claims involving sexual assaults, a federal jury in May found that Trump sexually abused Carroll in a luxury department store dressing room in the spring of 1996 and awarded her $5 million for battery and defamation. Trump, who is appealing the decision, does not face any jail time as a result of the civil verdict.

In light of the developments, the Justice Department said its position had changed.

Justice Department lawyers said they took into consideration Trump’s deposition that was played in the battery and defamation trial, as well as statements Trump made last October repeating the denials long after he left office, as an indication that he was not motivated to protect and serve the US when he first made the comments.

Lawyers for the Justice Department wrote that after balancing and weighing the evidence “from Mr. Trump’s deposition, the jury verdict in Carroll II, and the new allegations in the Amended Complaint, the Department has determined that there is no longer a sufficient basis to conclude that the former President was motivated by ‘more than an insignificant’ desire to serve the United States Government,” lawyers for the Justice Department wrote.

“And a jury has now found that Mr. Trump sexually assaulted Ms. Carroll long before he became President. That history supports an inference that Mr. Trump was motivated by a ‘personal grievance’ stemming from events that occurred many years prior to Mr. Trump’s presidency,” the Justice Department wrote.

The judge has scheduled the trial for January, at the start of the presidential primary season.

Trump’s attorneys couldn’t immediately be reached for comment.

Carroll’s lawyer, Roberta Kaplan, said they are “grateful that the Department of Justice has reconsidered its position.”

“We have always believed that Donald Trump made his defamatory statements about our client in June 2019 out of personal animus, ill will, and spite, and not as President of the United States,” Kaplan said.

This story has been updated with additional details.

Grandpa_No on July 11st, 2023 at 21:43 UTC »

Justice Department lawyers said they took into consideration Trump’s deposition that was played in the battery and defamation trial earlier this year stemming from a separate lawsuit Carroll brought, as well as statements Trump made in October repeating the denials long after he left office, indicating he was not motivated to protect and serve the US when he first made the comments.

Lol. Once again had he just shut the fuck up and said, "No comment" he'd be in a better position than he finds himself in today. I mean, it almost sounds like he could have just said, "Yeah, I raped her? Why do you care?" and the DOJ would have continued to defend his original denial as being in defense of the Office of the President, not Trump, and the defamation case would have been denied.

Sleaze_Guy on July 11st, 2023 at 21:35 UTC »

It's like every pigeon on earth is shitting on Mar-a-Lago ... and it's beautiful!

Earthoceanandsky on July 11st, 2023 at 21:29 UTC »

He has enjoyed immunity from an array of law-breaking allegations. The very reason why he wants to run again is because he wants more immunity. There is no love for the country in this guy’s bones. It’s just “me me me me …”