We the users have all the power here. If you want to hurt Reddit the solution is simple - delete all your posts and comments. If you are using chrome or edge in stall the Nuke Reddit History extension and visit old.reddit.com and then activate it. All your data that reddit needs to survive is then gone. (It will be archived on other sites so you are not harming the communities).
I honestly don't really understand what the outrage is about. As far as I know, there are two main points of concern: 1) tools that are essential to properly moderating subreddits and thus providing quality content that attracts users, will become too expensive to use and thus it will be impossible to properly moderate subreddits 2) people want to use different apps than the main reddit app for various reasons; these apps will now also become too expensive to run, thus robbing people of their alternatives
Concern one seems to me, though I am entirely unfamiliar with the bot ecosystem so I could very well be wrong, to have been addressed by Reddit. They've whitelisted any bot that's necessary for moderation and also indicate that nearly all bots that exist in general fall in the free tier to begin with. As far as I understand it, that has addressed all the issues.
As for concern two, I don't know all the reasons why people prefer the alternatives, but from what I gather the main points are accessibility and ads. Accessibility is absolutely a valid concern and I recognize that the official Reddit app is far from ideal here, on top of its other shortcomings. The ads part...well, I get that having Reddit be free is very nice, but running it is going to cost a TON of money and that money needs to come from somewhere. People don't want their data stored (absolutely understandable), people don't want to be forced to view ads (absolutely understandable), but then the only option left is actually paying, and I saw plenty of people being ridiculed for paying for Reddit stuff like avatars, too.
If we want to continue to have third party apps, then in my opinion we should accept that we'll have to pay, right? Or there should be a system to allow ads to be shown in the third party apps. Or perhaps you can buy a subscription to allow you to use third party apps (is it part of Reddit premium, perhaps?)
Anyway, that is how I see the situation right now. I'd love to hear what I'm missing.
IT8055 on June 17th, 2023 at 08:53 UTC »
We the users have all the power here. If you want to hurt Reddit the solution is simple - delete all your posts and comments. If you are using chrome or edge in stall the Nuke Reddit History extension and visit old.reddit.com and then activate it. All your data that reddit needs to survive is then gone. (It will be archived on other sites so you are not harming the communities).
weeknie on June 17th, 2023 at 09:06 UTC »
I honestly don't really understand what the outrage is about. As far as I know, there are two main points of concern: 1) tools that are essential to properly moderating subreddits and thus providing quality content that attracts users, will become too expensive to use and thus it will be impossible to properly moderate subreddits 2) people want to use different apps than the main reddit app for various reasons; these apps will now also become too expensive to run, thus robbing people of their alternatives
Concern one seems to me, though I am entirely unfamiliar with the bot ecosystem so I could very well be wrong, to have been addressed by Reddit. They've whitelisted any bot that's necessary for moderation and also indicate that nearly all bots that exist in general fall in the free tier to begin with. As far as I understand it, that has addressed all the issues.
As for concern two, I don't know all the reasons why people prefer the alternatives, but from what I gather the main points are accessibility and ads. Accessibility is absolutely a valid concern and I recognize that the official Reddit app is far from ideal here, on top of its other shortcomings. The ads part...well, I get that having Reddit be free is very nice, but running it is going to cost a TON of money and that money needs to come from somewhere. People don't want their data stored (absolutely understandable), people don't want to be forced to view ads (absolutely understandable), but then the only option left is actually paying, and I saw plenty of people being ridiculed for paying for Reddit stuff like avatars, too.
If we want to continue to have third party apps, then in my opinion we should accept that we'll have to pay, right? Or there should be a system to allow ads to be shown in the third party apps. Or perhaps you can buy a subscription to allow you to use third party apps (is it part of Reddit premium, perhaps?)
Anyway, that is how I see the situation right now. I'd love to hear what I'm missing.
2ecStatic on June 17th, 2023 at 11:21 UTC »
This is literally the equivalent of people posting black squares on Instagram lol