WoW killed WoW

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Fun-Profile3707 on July 8th, 2021 at 13:31 UTC »

It’s kind of funny how many MMO’s set out to be “The WoW Killer” when the game that finally killed it... was WoW. And Yoshi P just set out to make a good game after the 1.0 mess and we ended up with Eorzea of today!

KF1eLd on July 8th, 2021 at 14:56 UTC »

Calling WoW dead is a little hyperbolic but, now more than ever, it's beginning to feel tangible that it's in serious trouble. The last two expansions have been critically panned for being objectively mediocre, even bad, and that's the first time in my memory that I can remember seeing TWO expansions in a row be crap. Usually there was always an on/off switch in terms of WoW's expansions. You'd have something like WoD which was dreadful with little content, but then Legion would come after and be a loved expansion by most of the playerbase. Or a beloved expansion like Wrath, followed by an expansion like Cataclysm that's reception was much more luke-warm. This has been a pattern with the game for as long as I've been playing it, and I bought the game around Thanksgiving of '04 and have been playing it on and off ever since.

I will say this... Having so many of WoW's biggest content creators trying out Final Fantasy right now, all at the same time, is going to have wide-reaching implications for WoW in general. Asmongold is consistently getting over 100K viewers while playing it, let alone 200K on his first FF stream. Rich Campbell, a former WoW e-sports commentator is streaming it daily. CohhCarnage is playing it. AnneFuscia is playing it. And on, and on. You have multiple WoW youtubers who are now playing it and posting FF content to their channels. It just feels like all the momentum is going in one direction, and it's not WoW's. FF is flourishing, WoW is floundering in controversy or bugs, or broken systems, etc. There's so many NEW eyes on Final Fantasy right now, eyes that have been taken off of WoW. Whether that lasts long term I don't know, but we'll have to wait and see. I think it's doing actual damage to Blizzard right now and I think it may force their hand to fundamentally change their philosophy surrounding the game, as it continues losing subscriptions(mine included).

I played that game for 15+ years like I said. My favorite time-period was Vanilla through Wrath, and because of that I've even been playing WoW Classic quite a bit over the past 2+ years. But because of all the attention FF has been getting from some of WoW's biggest content creators, I installed the game a couple weeks ago, and I've fallen in love with it. I bought the complete edition a couple days ago and got off the free trial. Every day I'm finding more things I enjoy about it, and it also helps that FF has been my favorite JRPG franchise since I was a child and I grew up with them, so because of that I already have a pre-established understanding of A LOT of the lore elements, ie: what makes Final Fantasy what it is. I've played nearly all of the single player games, numerous times over, and it's certainly aided in my experience with 14 so far. I also greatly appreciate the overall philosophy the '14 devs have with the game, compared to Blizzard's. They genuinely seem to care and have their priorities in the right places with regard to the playerbase.

Odysseus_is_Ulysses on July 8th, 2021 at 15:07 UTC »

WoW is dying is the biggest cliche in MMORPG communities but my goodness it’s getting dangerously close to being a true statement. It’s certainly “unhealthy” right now.