Reddit banned a group of WallStreetBets moderators after they staged an attempted coup

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WallStreetBets' moderators staged an attempted coup on Wednesday to kick out dissenting mods.

Two waves of bans hit the WallStreetBets mods, one from themselves and one from Reddit.

Some old moderators have been reinstated but the future of the sub remains unclear.

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WallStreetsBets, a forum on Reddit that recently made headlines for boosing unlikely stock picks like Gamestop, has exploded in popularity over the past two weeks. This week, it experienced a virtual coup among moderators of the subreddit that resulted in multiple waves of bans from WallStreetBets and Reddit itself.

On Thursday morning, a moderator who goes by zjz, claimed that the group of moderators who oversee WallStreetBets had split over a potential movie deal following the subreddit's viral fame, creating a power struggle between two groups. Moderators oversee control of individual subreddits like WallStreetBets and make sure the sub is following Reddit's rules by removing spam and posts that break the community guidelines.

Writing in a post titled "/r/wallstreetbets will die soon unless the admins save us," the longtime moderator "begged for help" after he said he was being "taken hostage by the top moderators." According to zjz, moderators who hadn't been active on the WallStreetBets recently came back and took over, creating press email addresses and "scrambling to get paid from some movie deal." The post was quickly removed from the sub, alongside many comments criticizing the new moderators.

According to a report from the New York Times, moderators of WallStreetBets had been discussing "landing a movie deal" and figuring out what their "cut" is in a conversation on Discord, a chat app. These mods had booted out anyone in their inner circle who questioned the deal and wanted the sub to remain fairly true to its original message of buying stocks with a "YOLO" mentality, such as zjz. The ousted moderators were not only against the movie deal, they also believed that the sudden influx of new users could lead to a sudden shift in subreddit culture, changing what made WSB initially unique.

"This was our clubhouse with all our friends where we let loose and were honest about being in it for the money, but not being in it to sell each other anything," zjz told the NY Times over email.

R/WallStreetBetsTest, a sub created nine months ago by zjz, has become the new hub for these ousted mods and the place to discuss the drama that transpired.

Shortly after zjz's removal, fellow mod jamsi announced that they had been removed as well. Claiming to have over 14 years of experience as a moderator on the platform, they offered their assistance to help deal with the volume of traffic and posts only a week ago. In that seven-day period, they claim to have moderated "an average of 1,500 posts and comments per day."

"I was confused, annoyed and sad trying to understand what had happened," jamsi wrote.

Over the next day, other WallStreetBet moderators like notmikjaash and bawse1 left their duties or were kicked out by the current administration. A petition was posted, asking Reddit administrators to step in and reinstate the old team that has pulled in nearly 9,000 upvotes.

On Thursday evening, the WallStreetBets moderators who attempted the coup were removed by Reddit for breaking the platform's guidelines. At Reddit, a hands-off approach is usually saved for moderators, with the company rarely stepping in and forcefully clearing away those in charge of their subreddits. During all of this, WallStreetBetsTest went private, going public again early on Friday morning.

Reddit's "Moderator Guidelines for Healthy Communities" require a "stable and active team of moderators" and "association to a brand" and it's unclear if the new wave of mods were able to adhere to these rules.

In total, six moderators had turned over by Friday, including turdled who had personally banned jamsi. Seven of WallStreetBet's older moderators were reinstated so that the sub could go back to some level of normalcy.

"Matters are now returning to normalcy and the original mods are taking back control," jamsi wrote in a post on WallStreetBetsTest. "This is a good first step in healing for this community that we care so much about."

Mod upheaval on WallStreetBets has happened before. In April of 2020, founder of the sub Jaime Rogozinski was forcefully removed as a moderator from the sub after he pushed a "Wall Street Bet Championship" event where he may have had a stake in its sponsorship and success. Rogozinski recently sold the rights to his life story to entertainment company RatPac Entertainment according to the Wall Street Journal.

ninjascotsman on February 6th, 2021 at 16:16 UTC »

This would be violation of Reddit user agreement

7. Moderators

You may not perform moderation actions in return for any form of compensation, consideration, gift, or favor from third parties;

albino_red_head on February 6th, 2021 at 15:42 UTC »

This headline is very misleading about the situation. There are “OG” mods who’ve been sleeping. Newer mods over the last few years had stepped up to do the moderation, and everyone knew it. GameStop drama happened and sleeper mod shows up on tv talking about WSB, they start talking about movie deals and cuts, and something about pushing a new cryptocurrency backed by winkelvoss twins. One of the newer active mods spoke out about the politics and got banned. He wasn’t staging a coup. The coup was completed by sleeper mods who were previously exiled for starting money making schemes.

Edit: good god people, this blew up! I realize that I’m reading this headline in the incorrect way. I see two ways to view the phrase and what I saw was wrong. The article actually is a pretty good description of what happened and even quotes /u/zjz from an interview/communication. I suggest you check it out.

Edit 2: guys, what do I do with silver awards? Buy a diamond hands avatar?

infodawg on February 6th, 2021 at 13:24 UTC »

I'd call that a failed hostile takeover,