Michael Moore: ‘Don’t believe the polls, Trump vote is always undercounted’

Authored by independent.co.uk and submitted by Pessimist2020

Moore warned that the Trump vote is “always being undercounted” because his supporters are suspicious of the so-called “deep state”.

“It’s awful news that Biden is ahead by seven points in Michigan and I have to fight against this constantly,” said the documentary filmmaker while appearing on Hill.TV.

Moore pointed to a poll from July in Michigan that showed the Democratic challenger leading Mr Trump by 16 points. The 66-year-old filmmaker noted that since then the president has cut that lead in half, suggesting this was the best way to estimate Mr Biden’s support.

“Trump has tightened virtually every one of these swing states to the point where this morning… Biden’s five points ahead in Wisconsin. He’s maybe three points ahead in Florida, two points ahead in Arizona,” said Moore.

“Listen, don’t believe these polls, first of all. And second of all, the Trump vote is always being undercounted. Pollsters when they actually call a real Trump voter, the Trump voter is very suspicious of the ‘deep state’ calling them and asking them who they are voting for,” Moore said.

"It's all fake news to them, remember. It's not an accurate count," the filmmaker said. "I think the safe thing to do, this is not scientific... whatever they're saying the Biden lead is, cut it in half, right now, in your head. Cut it in half, and now you're within the four-point margin of error,” Moore shared, “That’s how desperately close this is.

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“People keep asking me ‘what do you think is gonna happen,'” he added. “Because in 2016… four months, five months before the election, I said that Trump’s going to win and he’s going to win by winning Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania.

“And that got me no free entrances to casinos by the way,” he said jokingly. “It hasn’t done me any good but now they expect me to know what happens next Tuesday and of course, I don’t know, none of us know. ”

Moore continued, “But I wake up every morning with the assumption that Trump believes he’s going to win and that’s good enough for me. If he thinks he’s going to win, then I think he’s going to win.

"And I am going to act every minute of today and the rest of the day until I fall asleep after midnight, I am going to be working to make sure he doesn’t win.”

Moore also referred to Trump as an "evil genius" for his ability to win the election.

“He’s already done it. He’s already fooled everybody and everybody must act right now as if this could happen again. And if it does happen again, game over,” concluded the filmmaker.

Englishfucker on October 30th, 2020 at 11:39 UTC »

Always as in once previously?

-misanthroptimist on October 30th, 2020 at 11:34 UTC »

Not gonna click, but I will say this: It can be fairly said that the Clinton vote was undercounted in 2016, as well as Trump's. In the 25 states that I examined, Clinton matched or exceeded the average polling prediction for her share of the vote in all 25. The reason both she and Trump were "undercounted" was because there was a large pool of both undecideds and third-party voters; frequently totaling more than Clinton's lead. That's not the case in 2016 2020. (Thanks to all who corrected me.)

Both Biden and Trump will likely get a larger percentage of the vote than polls indicate.

Read1984 on October 30th, 2020 at 10:46 UTC »

What are the chances pundits will start labeling healthcare workers as a voting bloc? There are many of them, and they see the consequences of what's going on with the virus in searing detail. Furthermore they are up against the day-to-day commodification of American healthcare to begin with even prior to COVID being around.