Gender bias kept alive by people who think it’s dead

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The “key drivers” of workplace gender bias were managers who thought bias no longer existed in their profession

Gender bias kept alive by people who think it’s dead

Workplace gender bias is being kept alive by people who think it’s no longer an issue, new research suggests.

In the study, managers were given identical descriptions of a worker – the only difference being either a male or female name.

Most managers rated the male worker as more competent, and recommended a higher salary – an average 8% pay gap.

The “key drivers” of this gap were managers who thought bias no longer existed in their profession, while those who believed bias still existed recommended roughly equal pay.

This means holding this belief constitutes a “critical risk factor”, and may be vital to identifying who in a profession is perpetuating issues of gender bias.

Two thirds of the managers who thought gender bias no longer existed were men – but female managers with this opinion undervalued female staff just as much as male managers did.

The research –by the University of Exeter, Skidmore College and the British Veterinary Association (BVA) – focussed on the veterinary profession.

“Managers who thought gender bias is no longer an issue recommended annual pay that was £2,564 ($3,206) higher for men than for women,” said lead author Dr Christopher Begeny, of the University of Exeter.

“This represents an 8% gap – which closely matches the real pay gap we see in veterinary medicine.

“When you break this down, it’s like going to that male employee after an hour’s work and saying, ‘ya know what, here’s an extra two bucks – not because you’re particularly qualified or good at your job, but simply because you’re a man’.

“And then the next hour, you go back and give that male employee another $2, and the next hour another $2.

“And on and on, continuing to do that every hour for the next 2,000 hours of work.”

The research was made up of two studies.

The first asked vets about their experiences, and showed women were more likely than men to report experiencing discrimination, and less likely to experience recognition among colleagues for their value and worth.

In the second study, managers participated in a randomised double-blind experiment, with the stated purpose of “understanding their experiences managing others”.

They were each given a fictitious performance review for a veterinary surgeon.

Everyone was given an identical performance review, except that the name of the vet differed: either Mark or Elizabeth.

Managers evaluated the vet’s performance/competence and indicated the salary they would advise if this employee was in their own practice.

“The resulting evaluations were systematically biased among those who thought gender bias was no longer an issue,” said co-author, Professor Michelle Ryan, of the University of Exeter.

“Unsurprisingly, these biased evaluations led to lower pay recommendations for female vets.

“We have worked closely with the BVA, and when presenting these findings to managers in the veterinary profession they are often shocked and concerned.”

- Vets were split over whether gender bias still existed in their profession (44% said yes, 42% said no; the rest were undecided).

- Gender bias among managers who thought bias was not an issue was not only evident among those who strongly believed this, but also those who only slightly held this view.

- Because of seeing the female as less competent, managers were also less likely to advise giving her more managerial responsibilities, and less likely to encourage her to pursue important opportunities for promotion. This shows how managers’ biases not only affect women’s current employment situation (current pay) but can affect the entire trajectory of their career, by discouraging them from pursuing promotions.

- All of these effects held true when controlling for managers’ own gender, their years of managerial experience, how long they’ve been in the profession, etc.

- They also held true when controlling for managers’ endorsement of more overtly sexist beliefs (i.e., endorsement of hostile sexism)

Women have outnumbered men in the veterinary profession for more than a decade, so biased perceptions of women lacking competence might be expected to have disappeared.

The bias shown in this study may be a harbinger of what’s to come in other professions – those that are striving to increase women’s representation, perhaps thinking, erroneously, that this will resolve any issues of gender bias.

“With many professions working to increase the number of women in their ranks, companies need to be careful not to equate gender diversity with gender equality – even with equal numbers you can have unequal treatment,” said Dr Begeny.

“There is no ‘silver bullet’ to ensure gender equality has been achieved.

“Ongoing vigilance is required, including awareness training to guard against some forms of bias.

“It is also important to have ‘guardrails’ that help prevent discrimination, including by removing names from job applications, which can signal the applicant’s gender, and ensuring standard questions in interviews.”

Dr Begeny added: “Overall, this research highlights a rather insidious paradox that can arise when individuals misperceive the level of progress made on gender equality in their profession, such that those who mistakenly think gender bias is no longer an issue become the highest risk for perpetuating it.”

The research received funding from the BVA and the European Research Council.

The paper, published in the journal Science Advances, is entitled: “In some professions women have become well-represented, yet gender bias persists – perpetuated by those who think it is not happening.”

InsolubleFluff on June 28th, 2020 at 23:23 UTC »

I'm not sure if it can be said that this article reaches a meaningful conclusion.

In the first study included there is a modest sample of 1147 participants. However, the second study included a significantly smaller sample of 254 participants.

The participation of women was 66.8% in the first study and 57.1% in the second study. Both of these studies show a deviation from the industry average according to rcvs 2017 fact sheet.

It can be found here:

https://www.rcvs.org.uk/news-and-views/publications/rcvs-facts-2017/

Men would account for approximately 39.6% of the profession. However, in the first study they are represented as -6.4% and in the second study +3.3%. That becomes significant when you consider the average age of men and women within the industry.

For example, while men make up 33.3% of veterinary surgeons aged younger than 25, they make up 83.2% of those above retirement age in the field. Therefore, men within the industry are both statistically older, and likely an accompanying perception men are older or more experienced than their contemporaries.

That becomes significant when you consider the figure on salary is calculated as how much they would offer the applicant (Mark or Elizabeth) respective to their own practice.

Therefore, you open the data sample to bias on how much they respect or know about their existing peers. There may be many biases that people attribute to determining the salary - gender does not necessarily need to be the defining one.

To give an example, if I have a reportee at the time that is difficult to work with and I would value at £23,000 then I may be likely to offer another candidate that salary. However, if my reportee was very competent and they were on £26,000 then I may be more likely to offer an incumbent that salary. In this case, the applicant's salary may be determined relative to how much I value my existing staff.

Another factor may be the current financial situation of the individual practice. Since there were 46% with more than 10 years managerial experience and on average 23 years experience - you might expect them to be more privy to salary information of their existing practice or the industry at large. In which case, it may be the case that a compounding of more men, with more experience also view gender inequality as not being an issue in the field and also more conservative in how much they would pay an individual.

It would be interesting to see the exact data for this study so that other conclusions could be tested. However, I think it's safe to say there's a correlation here, but may not represent a causation.

GenderJuicy on June 28th, 2020 at 20:25 UTC »

I was responding to someone but their post was deleted. As someone working on video games, they'll often talk about how there aren't enough women in the industry, and that it will basically never be good enough until it's 50/50. Same applies to different races. But it's not considering any factors like, it was mostly men growing up in the 80s forward who played a lot of video games. I would say it was mostly discouraged that girls play video games growing up until fairly recently. In my own life, all my girl classmates never played video games. There was literally like one girl who did years later who moved in from another state, and then it wasn't until high school that there were a handful of them who were actually gamers. Meanwhile pretty much every guy played games. There was also the social stigma of being a nerd, espeially if you were deeply interested in the technical aspects of things like programming. And I'm relatively young, I grew up with the N64, GC and Wii for your understanding.

So when there's little interest in an entire gender growing up, how can you expect a 50% female workplace for something that males grew up being far more interested in? There's all these males who have grown to be passionate about gaming, they are far more likely to make it part of their career. It may skew to be higher over time as more younger people get hired, but it probably won't be until my generation is the oldest people in the industry.

tubularical on June 28th, 2020 at 19:59 UTC »

It's interesting that they did this in an industry dominated by women (veterinarians) and this was still the result. Also interesting is the fact that female managers who didn't believe gender bias existed basically acted the same as male managers in that regard. It seems to say something not only about gender bias but how authority perceives the people underneath it-- a sort of "I got ahead, so I don't see why you can't" situation.

It's not something you can test for but I'd like to know the source of this bias. Like, are these people seeing women as less competent because they believe they're at a natural disadvantage? Is it a cultural thing where we don't believe women can get ahead because we see less women getting ahead coz they have less opportunities? Do we expect women to do more work for less reward? These are all conclusions a social scientist can theorize about on their own time, but ultimately it's clear that concepts like "value" that many of us believe to be objective are in fact shaped by our unconscious thoughts.