The best way to prevent abortions is to prevent unwanted pregnancies. The best way to prevent unwanted pregnancies is to make contraception and education about contraception free and readily available to all. Funny how the most anti-abortion ppl are also usually anti-birth control and anti-sex ed in schools 🤔
A lot of people believe that pro-life advocates that don't allow exception for rape or incest are somehow extremists who are evil, but it's sort of the opposite. If you sincerely believe that the fetus is a life, and that life shouldn't be terminated, then you shouldn't believe that rape should be an exception.
But it's looked at as a "moderate" view on abortion that there should be exceptions for rape, and that those who don't grant that exception are extremists.
But it doesn't make sense, for the reason the reasons she points out. If you make an exception for rape (or incest, which is generally just a kind of rape in this context), you're saying "okay, you get out of this one, you didn't deserve this to happen to you" or "you didn't choose this" - but their choice should be irrelevant. If you sincerely believe that the life of the child needs to be protected, then you can't really say "this precious baby has a right to life, unless it's a rape baby"
So people who are pro-life but do not believe in an exception for rape are, generally, more sincere and more philosophically consistent. Whereas people who do wish to allow that exception are logically indicating that they view abortion as getting out of a punishment, rather than about protecting the life of an unborn person.
So, I’m an adopted yak. I was in foster care for the very first part of life (only a year and a bit). My biological mother was twelve. Fucking TWELVE. My biological father was not twelve and my mother didn’t have much say in the matter. She was raped.
I’ve had people who learn that simply because I was adopted (not many know the truth of my conception), I must be pro life. They’re wrong. Insanely wrong. See, my bio mom had to carry me to term because her religious parents, wouldn’t dream of aborting me. But they also didn’t want me as part of the family.
So... this poor middle school girl had to go through the trauma of rape, and then the trauma of me being born, just as she had become a teenager.
Don’t get me wrong, I like being alive and am happy to be a part of things, but were it temporally possible, I wouldn’t have begrudged her for terminating the pregnancy. Thinking about it is painful, and makes me hurt for her. She didn’t give up her autonomy. It was taken from her... twice. Again, I’m grateful to be alive. But seriously, it doesn’t budge me on the abortion issue. I wouldn’t wish what happened to her on anyone, and will continue to be firmly pro-choice.
(I don’t mean to be preachy here, but this is an issue close to my heart)
Winnimae on February 18th, 2020 at 23:06 UTC »
The best way to prevent abortions is to prevent unwanted pregnancies. The best way to prevent unwanted pregnancies is to make contraception and education about contraception free and readily available to all. Funny how the most anti-abortion ppl are also usually anti-birth control and anti-sex ed in schools 🤔
SenorBeef on February 18th, 2020 at 23:30 UTC »
A lot of people believe that pro-life advocates that don't allow exception for rape or incest are somehow extremists who are evil, but it's sort of the opposite. If you sincerely believe that the fetus is a life, and that life shouldn't be terminated, then you shouldn't believe that rape should be an exception.
But it's looked at as a "moderate" view on abortion that there should be exceptions for rape, and that those who don't grant that exception are extremists.
But it doesn't make sense, for the reason the reasons she points out. If you make an exception for rape (or incest, which is generally just a kind of rape in this context), you're saying "okay, you get out of this one, you didn't deserve this to happen to you" or "you didn't choose this" - but their choice should be irrelevant. If you sincerely believe that the life of the child needs to be protected, then you can't really say "this precious baby has a right to life, unless it's a rape baby"
So people who are pro-life but do not believe in an exception for rape are, generally, more sincere and more philosophically consistent. Whereas people who do wish to allow that exception are logically indicating that they view abortion as getting out of a punishment, rather than about protecting the life of an unborn person.
The_Best_Yak_Ever on February 19th, 2020 at 00:04 UTC »
So, I’m an adopted yak. I was in foster care for the very first part of life (only a year and a bit). My biological mother was twelve. Fucking TWELVE. My biological father was not twelve and my mother didn’t have much say in the matter. She was raped.
I’ve had people who learn that simply because I was adopted (not many know the truth of my conception), I must be pro life. They’re wrong. Insanely wrong. See, my bio mom had to carry me to term because her religious parents, wouldn’t dream of aborting me. But they also didn’t want me as part of the family.
So... this poor middle school girl had to go through the trauma of rape, and then the trauma of me being born, just as she had become a teenager.
Don’t get me wrong, I like being alive and am happy to be a part of things, but were it temporally possible, I wouldn’t have begrudged her for terminating the pregnancy. Thinking about it is painful, and makes me hurt for her. She didn’t give up her autonomy. It was taken from her... twice. Again, I’m grateful to be alive. But seriously, it doesn’t budge me on the abortion issue. I wouldn’t wish what happened to her on anyone, and will continue to be firmly pro-choice.
(I don’t mean to be preachy here, but this is an issue close to my heart)