A Trial Without Witnesses Is No Trial at All

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The House of Representatives carried out months of investigation before impeaching Trump, and it, no doubt, has thousands of pages of documentary evidence and the testimony of dozens of witnesses to rely on. This is the material that the House managers drew upon during their 24 hours of so-called opening arguments, taking that opportunity to sneak in as much of the evidence as they could. Trump’s counsel also had 24 hours, to respond to the managers’ claims. Senators, acting as both judges and jury, had the opportunity to question both sides. What more do we need?

A lot, as it turns out. The thing that was missing is confrontation, which inevitably means cross-examination.

The main point of cross-examination is to challenge the veracity of the other side’s evidence. A competent witness must be able to observe, remember, and recount what happened, and there’s always the question of conscious or unconscious bias. The party calling the witness has every reason to put her in the best light possible; it’s the opposing party who wants to discredit her. And that’s best done through cross-examination, which John Henry Wigmore, the dean of the law of evidence, once famously described as “beyond any doubt the greatest legal engine ever invented for the discovery of truth.” In nearly every impeachment proceeding that has made it to the Senate before now, including the basely partisan impeachment of Andrew Johnson, the managers and the defense have called, examined, and cross-examined witnesses.

Things changed with Bill Clinton’s impeachment. During his trial the Senate heard from only three people, and then only via select segments of videotaped depositions. But 12 years later, in the impeachment of Judge Thomas G. Porteous Jr., it was back to a typical trial with witnesses, and before dismissing the case against Judge Samuel B. Kent in 2009, the Senate gave the country no reason to think that it wouldn’t hear witnesses in that trial. The rule now seems to be that when Congress impeaches a judge, it holds a regular trial, but when it impeaches a president it adopts a Frankenstein process designed for grandstanding that in the end amounts to nothing but sound and fury.

In the Trump impeachment debacle, even the opening and closing arguments, and the senators’ questioning process, were terribly flawed. The opening arguments weren’t designed to let the managers and the president’s counsel test the truth of the other side’s assertions. There was a lack of spontaneity; the managers spoke without interruption by the defense for more than 20 hours, raising a host of legal issues and making innumerable factual allegations, all of it likely blurring in the minds of the senators. Any high-school debater knows that the better approach is a series of brief presentations that involve immediate point-by-point rebuttals. Simply put, there was no dialogue.

feignapathy on February 1st, 2020 at 14:39 UTC »

Bingo.

Stop calling it a trial please.

All it was was a summary of the charges against Trump, and Trump's lawyers arguing he was a king immune to the laws of America. Trials have witnesses, documents, and other forms of evidence. The "defense" didn't even introduce any defending testimonies or documents...

bluechips2388 on February 1st, 2020 at 14:20 UTC »

This was a Criminal Cover-up.

Mitch McConnell (Juror) stated before the trial that he would take orders from the defendant and that he wouldn't be unbiased. That demands Recusal and Expulsion.

Evidence from the House of Rep Investigation was hidden away and barred from the trial, by all the Republicans. This is Obstruction.

No witnesses of the crimes were allowed to show America the truth, first hand accounts. This is Obstruction.

Pat Cipollone (Defense attorney) was involved in the crime, as per John Bolton. This demands Recusal, Suspension from the Bar, and investigations in his wrongdoing.

Lindsay Graham (juror) was involved in the crime, as per John Bolton. This demands Recusal, and Investigation/Expulsion.

Rand Paul (Juror) broke Federal Whistleblower acts, obstructed justice, witness tampered, and broke impeachment rules by leaving the courtroom during the trial for an extended period. This demands Recusal, Expulsion, and Civil Lawsuits against him.

Alan Dershowitz (defense attorney) admitted that his client is guilty and there is plenty of evidence, but that he is above the law and untouchable. This demands disbarment.

Trump (Defendant) admitted to the crime multiple times, on video. This alone demands Impeachment and Removal.

America WAKE UP

Entire-Reflection on February 1st, 2020 at 12:48 UTC »

The issue is, the majority of people who will vote on whether or not Trump is guilty have an active interest in keeping Trump at the top. Even if you don’t think Trump should be impeached, surely you have to still agree that this is ridiculous

Imagine if a man was on trial and the jury was his friends and family, you’ve pretty much described this “trial”