Darren Chester suggests paying volunteer firefighters during major bushfires

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Darren Chester suggests paying volunteer firefighters during major bushfires

Prime Minister Scott Morrison is facing pressure from within his own ranks to pay volunteer firefighters, as one Minister questions the sustainability of unpaid brigades working for months on end.

Key points: Mr Chester proposed using a property tax to pay volunteers during "campaign" fires

The Gippsland MP said he would bring a policy paper to his party in the new year

The Prime Minister earlier said he had received no requests from the states to compensate volunteers

As three large fires raged in his Gippsland electorate, Veterans' Affairs Minister and Nationals MP Darren Chester said there was strong support among his constituents to pay volunteers when they worked for extended periods.

Fires in New South Wales and South Australia are also continuing to burn after a catastrophic start to the fire season, and there are fears an imminent heatwave will again cause the blazes to spread.

Mr Morrison announced on Tuesday that volunteer firefighters who were Government employees would be given an extra four weeks of paid leave, and he encouraged businesses to follow suit.

But Mr Chester told ABC News Breakfast there was a need to have a conversation about compensating volunteers further.

He said it did not seem sustainable to expect firefighters to volunteer their time for "days, weeks and months" as a changing climate extends the fire season.

"Can it be sustainable in the longer-term when it's actually required under these changed climatic conditions, to be out there in the field for days, weeks and months?" he said.

"That's a long time away from your family."

Mr Chester said one possibility was using the fire services property levy — currently collected by Victorian councils — to fund payment for volunteers on longer "campaign fires".

He said "90 to 95 per cent" of constituents he had spoken to were supportive of that idea, and he was preparing a policy paper to take to his party in the new year.

Defence Minister Linda Reynolds said the Prime Minister was aware of how hard volunteer firefighters worked and was discussing financial support with state leaders.

"Ultimately, it is an issue for state and territory governments but the Prime Minister is very forward-leading and is working closely at the moment with the Premier of New South Wales about the responses that are required," she said.

"He's been discussing with other premiers and chief ministers what more we can do to assist volunteers in these extreme circumstances where they have run out of leave and are under some financial stress."

Ms Reynolds said the Prime Minister would make a statement in coming days about what more could be done to support volunteers.

Mr Chester's comments followed Labor leader Anthony Albanese's calls for an urgent meeting of state and federal leaders to discuss the bushfire threat and the possibility of paying firefighters.

Speaking to media in Nowra, south of Sydney, Mr Albanese again called for the Government to consider providing financial compensation to the volunteers.

"This is the best of Australia. People helping out their fellow neighbours, their communities and their cities and towns and regions," he said Friday.

"It is unsustainable, however, to not have an income for a period not of days, not even of weeks but of months. And this is an issue that does have to be addressed."

Firefighting services are run by the states and territories, and Mr Morrison said on Monday the Government had received no requests from the states to compensate the volunteers.

Mr Chester said he had not raised the issue with Mr Morrison directly and his proposal was his opinion, not government policy.

"There's no clash here between me and the Prime Minister," he said.

"It's a question of how do we maintain that strong volunteer ethos of a fire service, but understand that there's these long-term campaign fires [that] take more than just volunteers, and how much pressure can we keep putting on them," he said.

"These fires, if we don't get decent rain, could be still going in a few months' time."

Climate scientists have linked last week's record-breaking heatwave — which saw fires spread and new blazes start — to climate change.

Mr Chester said there was "no doubt" hotter, drier conditions had impacted on the fires Australia was experiencing, but was careful not to link specific events to climate change.

"Even the experts say you don't associate one natural disaster with climate change, it's a long-term pattern. So what we're seeing is a long-term pattern of drying, so right along the east coast, we're seeing fires spread right across the landscape," he said.

The Federal Government on Friday announced Australian Defence Force liaison officers would be deployed to parts of NSW to help with the bushfire crisis.

Extra resources such as bulldozers, bulk water carriers and troops will also be made available.

Topics: government-and-politics, federal-government, fires, bushfire, volunteers, community-and-society, melbourne-3000, australia, vic, nsw, sa, sale-3850

teknokryptik on December 27th, 2019 at 10:04 UTC »

Volunteer firefighters are crucial in Australia.

Traditionally our full-time firefighters and parks & wildlife staff would handle their area for most of the year, and call upon some volunteers for a day or two during the summer.

Every couple of years there'd be "a big one" in some state and they'd call on volunteers from their area and from across the country for maybe a week or two in summer to fight it.

Maintaining a full-time force year-round consisting of the same numbers as all volunteers during that "peak" fire season at the worst of times would send the country broke pretty quickly, so a large volunteer force ready to go for the occasional big bushfire once every few years was a necessary compromise and everyone was happy enough knowing that they could take a few days off work without getting sacked to go and help out their neighbours (knowing that the favour would be returned in the future).

But then the fires got bigger.

And burned for longer.

And the "big ones" came around more often. We started getting "once in a generation" fires every year.

And then the "fire season" went from maybe a couple of weeks to a couple of months.

And then "big ones" would happen in multiple places at the same times.

And then the "fire season" went from "all summer" to "most of spring, all summer, and a fair chunk of autumn too".

And our volunteers were not just called upon for a couple of days a year, or a week or two once every few years, but for MONTHS, EVERY YEAR, giving up their holidays, taking unpaid leave from work, missing Christmas with their families, feeling like if they said "no" this year they'd be letting down their mates even though they are exhausted and stretched thin and financially stuffed.

Then the PM goes and takes a holiday in Hawaii while volunteer firefighters are dying and losing their own homes during an UNPRECEDENTED bush fire season...

...AFTER BEING WARNED BY ALL THE EX-FIRE CHIEFS IN THE COUNTRY MONTHS EARLIER THAT: "FUCK ME, MATE, SHIT'S ABOUT TO GET SERIOUS AND MAYBE YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE CUT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THE FIREFIGHTING BUDGET oh and we know you don't believe in climate change, and we're not allowed to mention it, but is anyone else getting warm around here?

And now we're in the position where, despite being in a recession everywhere but on official budget papers, and in order to keep the fantasy of "perpetual growth" going, and to deliver a "Budget Surplus", we're going to sell out the medium and long-term future of the country and the human race for short-term political gain and DOUBLE DOWN on coal, DOUBLE DOWN on Climate Change Denial, while asking out volunteer firefighters to risk their lives every year, for months at a time, with no financial support because to do so would bankrupt our country, but Barnaby can claim over half a million in taxpayer expenses to drunkenly spend a few weeks wandering in the bush sending texts back about the drought.1

I KNOW WE COULD HAVE AVOIDED ALL THIS DECADES AGO WHEN THE SCIENCE BEHIND HUMAN-INDUCED CLIMATE CHANGE WAS WELL-ESTABLISHED BY INTRODUCING POLICIES TO ENCOURAGE CLEAN AND RENEWABLE ENERGY BUT BY GOLLY RUPERT AND GINA HAD TO BE APPEASED, AND ALL THAT COAL WAS JUST BEGGING TO BE DUG UP AND SOLD TO CHINA, AND CUTTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM FIRE PREVENTION YEAR AFTER YEAR IN A COUNTRY THAT, EVEN ACCORDING TO THE ADULTS IN CHARGE "HAS HAD FIRES FOREVER" IS JUST GOOD GOVERNMENT POLICY!

Don't worry, though! No matter what they do they will still get re-elected.

Tuga_Lissabon on December 27th, 2019 at 08:55 UTC »

This is fucked up.

You pay soccer players. You pay the fuckers who go around collecting parking fines. You pay tax men.

You don't pay firefighters, who keep your whole civilisation from going up in flames.

How ridiculous is this?

Firefighters are amazing, and they are victims of their own qualities.

If they just said: "pay us or come deal with it yourselves friday" - it'd be done fast.

But the government and people know they'll do it because that's how they are - and so exploit the shit out of them.

EDIT:

For clarification:

By paying volunteer firefighters I mean "pay them for their LOST WAGES, you damn freeloaders." Not confusing it with professional ones.

But I consider it a huge shame that volunteer firefighters have to spend their own dime to put out other people's fires, and they have to go beg for money for new equipment to protect their life while they do so.

Society has no excuse for this.

EDIT:

Take a look at other well paid professions. Do you expect voluntary service from your plumber? The difference is if you can't pay, he won't say "oh poor guy, ok I'll do it for free." He says "Hope you like your floor running with shit".

Civil society knows it underpays these people, nurses, teachers and such. It knows it is abusing a set of the population that is hostage to its own moral qualities

Not a firefighter myself, but I would consider it deserved if they had a small ceremony where they delivered the keys to the trucks to the local politicians and said "you're a paid civil servant, go do it yourself."

Ingroup on December 27th, 2019 at 08:08 UTC »

Agree. I'm happy to turn out occasionally as a volunteer. But when it runs into days and days, we'll I have bills to pay too.