‘Aggravated women, socially awkward men’ make Seattle the nation’s worst city for singles, says love-podcast host

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Seattle singles may not be surprised to hear that for the second time in a row, the city has been named “America’s Worst City to Find Love” by the Great Love Debate podcast, a touring series of town-hall-style events that’s returning to the region next month.

Solo Seattleites earned low marks across the board for lack of communication, confidence and optimism, according to staffers behind the podcast, who used a formula weighing the opinions and demographic data from more than 92,000 singles over the past five years and millions more who have listened to Brian Howie’s podcast.

This phenomenon in which we don’t connect well to each other, known by some as the Seattle Freeze, has long been recognized.

“I quickly learned that Seattle men are far different from any other I’ve encountered: shy, timid and seemingly incapable of striking up a conversation, let alone offering to buy a female a drink,” Danielle Campoamor wrote in a 2013 opinion piece for The Seattle Times about her experience dating here as a straight woman. “The Seattle males’ inability to successfully merge with their female counterparts reminds me of the colossal cluster that is I-5 onramps. Much like a Seattleite merging onto a freeway, our men’s apprehensive tendencies leave them incapable of finding either the open lane or the open bar stool.”

Says podcast host Howie: “There are opportunities in every city, every day, to find the connection you are looking for. But there are certain cities where the singles are certainly making things harder for themselves. The past year has unquestionably been a challenging one for the dating dynamic between men and women throughout the country, and Seattle certainly stood out as not being up to the challenge.”

Last year, when Seattle debuted as the worst city for singles — at least for straight singles, who were the podcast’s focus — Howie reportedly said, “Of all the places where the disconnect grew wider this year, Seattle’s grew the widest, leaving a gloomy puddle of aggravated women, socially-awkward men and rainwater.”

Reasons for the Seattle Slump or the dating doldrums are many, according to numerous articles published in The Seattle Times through the years.

Among them, according to a 2004 article by Diane Mapes, are women’s belief that men here are too passive and men’s belief that women are intimidating. In addition, both groups may be “too busy climbing Mount Rainier to so much as say hello,” Mapes wrote.

This is not to say that singles cannot find successful matches here, just that it may take more perseverance, straightforwardness and cleverness than is required in other cities.

“From my experience, you just need to force yourself out more and try to meet people through work, the gym or other clubs,” Chase Meyer told The Seattle Times two years ago after moving to Seattle from Denver. “Once you do that, you can build up your friend network and the Freeze dissolves.”

As you continue your quest to thaw the freeze (or if you just need something to do with the new friends you’re making), get out and explore your city! Check out the Seattle Newcomers Guide for info on neighborhoods, food, public transportation, housing and more.

Seattle’s status as a dater-friendly city really depends on how you look at it. Seattle last year was ranked the sixth best place for singles to find love according to a WalletHub study that was based more heavily on the city’s economic health and wealth of dating-appropriate activities, rather than perceptions of individuals who live here.

Either way, we can take some solace in Seattle not being the only place to draw harsh judgment from the folks at the Great Love Debate. Here’s what Howie told Circa News last year about other cities that fared poorly in the podcast’s rankings:

cartmanbeer on March 27th, 2019 at 21:46 UTC »

Ah, a topic near and dear to my heart. Although I'm at the upper end of the age group - and yes, I'm just thrilled to be online dating at this age. /s

The amount of meaningless statements that are mistaken as personality traits in profiles are infuriating. Off the top of my head:

I work hard and I play hard I'm laid back/don't take myself seriously I enjoy nights out but also enjoy staying home Fluent in sarcasm I love life Love to laugh Try and keep up! Searching for my partner in crime, Jim to my Pam, my lobster, my person, etc. (I guess this is just a slightly more creative way to say you want something serious) I like music I like good food/beer/wine/sushi/tacos/whatever (food literally everyone who isn't allergic to generally enjoys) Happy hour Hate small talk I love my friends/family I have a son/daughter and "they are my world" (always that exact phrasing) I like tattoos I like to travel (this one always sounds more like "I can afford to travel (and you should to)" in meaning) Dog mom to the best <insert breed> in the world An old soul Astrological sign No flakes No hookups Don't be boring Prove that chivalry isn't dead! <insert animal/celebrity> is my spirit animal mis-attributed quote (usually Marilyn Monroe) Just ask! (as in, that's all there is in the profile) Must be over 6' tall because I wear heels (is under 5' 6") Some city --> another city --> yet another city --> Seattle Profile consists entirely of emojis

So if your profile is entirely an assortment of the above, there is a reason guys/gals are giving you the same corny lines or can't come up with anything clever to say. But in the end, who cares? It's an icebreaker for crying out loud. If you're interested, keep the conversation going!

Then there is the fun with the photos:

All photos wearing sunglasses or snapchat filters that cover half the face All group photos where you get to play the game of Where's Waldo/Wenda (hint: it's usually not the hottest one in the group) First photo being a group photo All closeup headshot selfies with the phone held high in the air (bonus points for heavy facetune filters) Photos of landscapes/pets/food followed by one or two odd silhouette photos, no face photos (always an Asian woman) People holding fish (a lot of people (women in particular) in Seattle don't fish, so this does look strange to them)

206grey on March 27th, 2019 at 20:42 UTC »

Seattle native (34M) here, super single. In my mid-late twenties I tried dating apps for quite some time. I've got some decent dates, met some cool people, also had some horrific ones. Life is about experience.

Around 32 I renewed my profiles b/c I was tired of being single and had most other aspects of life in a great place. Good career, morals, doesn't litter. Yaya decent human being basically.

So I tired tinder and bumble again, I'd spend so much thought writing unique opening messages that were about whoever I was messaging. Not pick-up lines or corny dad jokes but actual conversation starting questions.

It's tough when genuine questions don't work, so we try something new.. and what's new and original definitely not dad jokes or sexually aggressive comments right out the gate, but those actually get responses. So it felt counter-intuitive and send lewd messages is definitely out of character for me.

We're dominated by the clickbait-buzzfeed-hype driven by social media.

More often than not the responses would be a one word response, or nothing.. some times an unmatch. Which is okay, it's a numbers game at some point. It was abysmal.

I'm not 6'2 which is the minimum height required to match, haha jk. Whatever it was I never figured out, and I rarely use social media and don't use dating apps anymore.

Just self and career development. She'll either find me or I'll be happily forever alone haha :)

boots-n-bows on March 27th, 2019 at 18:48 UTC »

Newly-ish single and new to the apps. It's hell. Many of the men I see on there, I'm not shocked to learn they are single. I am baffled at the pictures or responses they have in their profile that they genuinely think will help them attract a mate.