Teacher says she was fired for giving zeroes to students who didn't turn in their work

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PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. (WPEC) — A teacher in Port St. Lucie, Florida claims she was fired for refusing to give students partial credit for work that is never handed in.

“I got fired. I was packing my stuff, and I was not going to see the kids,” Diane Tirado said.

Mrs. Tirado didn’t get to say goodbye to her student physically, so she wrote her message on a whiteboard instead.

“Bye kids, Mrs. Tirado loves you and wishes you the best in life! I have been fired for refusing to give you a 50% for not handing anything in. [heart] Mrs. Tirado.”

She snapped a photo of it and shared it on Facebook. Then, the messages from her eighth-grade students started pouring in.

“You showed me to be responsible for my work and the things that I do. I hope you don’t forget me,” one student wrote.

Mrs. Tirado has been a teacher for more than 17 years. The 52-year-old began working at West Gate K-8 School this year as an eighth-grade social studies teacher.

She says she gave her students two weeks to complete an explorer’s notebook project but says some of them didn’t turn it in.

That’s when she says she learned about a no-zero grading policy, written in red in the school’s handbook, stating, “NO ZERO’S – LOWEST POSSIBLE GRADE IS 50%.”

Tirado says this sends the wrong message.

“If there’s nothing to grade, how can I give somebody a 50 percent?” she asked.

Her Sept. 14 termination letter doesn’t cite a specific reason, only stating she was contracted as a teacher on a probation period, and that she can be dismissed without cause.

Her message on her classroom’s whiteboard has been shared hundreds of times, with messages from other parents and teachers congratulating her on standing her ground.

Tonight, she is calling for change because she believes the grading policy at West Gate K-8 School won’t help students in the long run.

“I’m arguing the fact that you don’t get something for nothing. I want the policy changed, and it’s not just here,” she said.

There are zeros found in the grading scale above the “no zero’s” wording on the West Gate Student and Parent Handbook, which adds confusion, Tirado said.

WPEC is still waiting to hear back from St. Lucie Public Schools as of late Monday night.

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his_rotundity_ on September 25th, 2018 at 16:11 UTC »

I had a student who showed up twice in one semester. Of the two times he showed up, I tried, albeit in vain, to give him make up work. I tried to consider what could be going on at home. His excuse was that he just had trouble waking up.

At the end of the semester, when grades were due, I struggled a bit. I felt bad because I remember how hard school was for me. I hated waking up to go, I hated the social component. But I also understood no other teacher was showing this kid the consequences of his behavior. He literally wasn't learning anything.

I elected to give him an F. The reality was that I was an easy teacher. I never gave homework, just focused on learning by induction, retention, and the students being able to show real-world application of the content. So he had to really try, which he did, to get an F.

When we returned from Christmas break, I went to check that my grades had been processed and noticed he had been given an A. When I looked at the log, I saw that the vice principal, who had a reputation for being a complete pushover, had given him an A. When I approached the VP about this, he said the student had promised to do better the following semester - his final semester before graduation. Incredulous, I asked what he had done to make up the work. The VP explained that they had a good heart-to-heart and he felt things would turn around.

We cannot expect academic excellence from our students when there are administrators that inappropriately sympathize with laggard students. There are, of course, exceptions but those are just that: exceptions.

EDIT: a few things.

First, the kid wasn't an athlete. He also wasn't some entitled POS with rich parents. In fact, he was a pretty humble, kind kid with a rough upbringing who lacked parental figures to help him learn discipline. Do I know what was going on behind the scenes? Partially, yes, and I consider myself fairly objective. With what I did know, and considering this student had a sibling who did not have attendance issues, I elected to give him and F in hopes of righting the course because, again, no other teacher was doing it. So, in this sense, I guess I weaponized the grading system against him. But understand, I built my gradebook based on MY assignments that I issued. So the F wasn't arbitrary, it was based on 0s across the board.

EDIT 2: As far as I know, he did not go on to become some deadbeat. I understand that's a popular trope for these types of stories. But the last time I talked to him, he was holding down a full-time job, not drug-addicted, and was thinking of going to a local university.

EDIT 3: To those barking about me not escalating this to other administrators: I was being paid $11/hr, working two other jobs, and my own family to worry about. My word against this VP's would have done nothing and likely would have made my life more difficult. Or something. I don't know and I don't care. This was several years ago and this VP no longer works at that school. Instead, he works at another school with a significantly larger student population. There are no teacher unions where I live.

EDIT 4: This was a high school in the western US, not a university.

EDIT 5: The VP was not as sinister as it may sound. He was just very... I don't know. Empathetic? A good sob story could get you anything from this guy. He had no disciplinary bone in his body. I don't believe there was blackmail or any sort of sexual favors happening as some have suggested. In all likelihood, the kid went to his office, told a sad story about something deeply personal, and it worked. I don't believe the kid did it to leverage the VP.

EDIT 6: Christ almighty, he was not Mexican, Black, or any other minority. He was as white as the driven snow. Go back to The_Donald if you want to engage in that rhetoric. There isn't some sweeping grading conspiracy that encourages educators to pass minorities.

LanceThunder on September 25th, 2018 at 15:27 UTC »

as someone who got some really really low grades in high school i support the teacher. i think in the 11th grade the majority of my final marks were below 40%. students need to be allowed to fail like that. the important part is that once they do fail that the adults take the time to find out why. for me, i was dyslexic. once i finally got the help i needed for that my grades shot right up.

rayne7 on September 25th, 2018 at 15:10 UTC »

Those kids are gonna have a super hard reality check once they leave the classroom. It's really unfair to them