yeah, whenever someone tries to pull off this comparison, I always say "so you're ok with swiss style gun regulations?" and they've never actually looked into it any further than the 1/2 stat
That Swiss guy has almost zero clue about civilian gun ownership in Switzerland.
You don't need a permit to buy ammo and ammo is not forbidden to be kept at home after you buy it. In order to buy ammo all you need is this:
Copy of your ID Crime records extract or instead of that crime records extract you can show a WES that you have used to buy any gun in the last 2 years
The militia is not related to civilian gun ownership.
You don't need to go to the army in order to own guns, and all our guns currently in the possession of civilians are owned by those civilians. The laws and rules that apply to the militia do not apply to civilians.
The guns that the army issues to the soldiers are not part of the civilian gun ownership rates of Switzerland because those guns are not the property of the soldier in question. You do not need to know how to use a weapon in order buy a gun in Switzerland.
Here's how you can buy a gun in Switzerland.
There are three different categories of weapons in Switzerland.
Free weapons
These weapons include bolt action and break action long guns and can be bought with just your ID (mandatory) and a crime records extract if necessary, since it's up to the seller to judge if he wants proof that you are a criminal or not. Everyone asks for a crime records extract anyway.
You then sign a bill of sale, you get a copy for you, one for the seller and one for the police to be sent in 30 days.
WES weapons
These weapons include any semi auto, lever action and pump action gun (including handguns). You can buy these weapons by sending a copy of your ID, a crime records extract not older than 3 months and a filled out WES request that looks like this (takes 5 minutes to fill out), to the police.
The police only checks your crime records, they cannot deny you a WES without definitive and concrete evidence that you don't fulfill the requirements. There is no psychological test or any way to see if you are a danger to yourself or other people, because they cannot check for those things. It's basically about the honesty of the person that fills out the WES.
"Forbidden" weapons
These include fully automatic guns. Although they are not really forbidden because you can request an exception (usually given without much trouble at the more pro gun cantons) by filling out this paper called a Ausnahmebewilligung.
Now for the rest.
There are no SBR laws in Switzerland, no laws concerning assault weapons and no magazine size limits. Getting a firearm in Switzerland is easier than in California or similar states with lots of gun control.
HighOnGoofballs on March 6th, 2018 at 16:29 UTC »
yeah, whenever someone tries to pull off this comparison, I always say "so you're ok with swiss style gun regulations?" and they've never actually looked into it any further than the 1/2 stat
Makalockheart on March 6th, 2018 at 16:54 UTC »
I love how you edited "Swiss guy" on his name
Zorthianator_V2 on March 6th, 2018 at 17:46 UTC »
Swiss gun owner here.
That Swiss guy has almost zero clue about civilian gun ownership in Switzerland.
You don't need a permit to buy ammo and ammo is not forbidden to be kept at home after you buy it. In order to buy ammo all you need is this:
Copy of your ID Crime records extract or instead of that crime records extract you can show a WES that you have used to buy any gun in the last 2 yearsIn fact you can even order ammo online and receive it by mail without any paperwork. Here's a shop that I buy from all the time: https://www.waffenboerse.ch/waffen-munition/munition.html
The militia is not related to civilian gun ownership.
You don't need to go to the army in order to own guns, and all our guns currently in the possession of civilians are owned by those civilians. The laws and rules that apply to the militia do not apply to civilians.
The guns that the army issues to the soldiers are not part of the civilian gun ownership rates of Switzerland because those guns are not the property of the soldier in question. You do not need to know how to use a weapon in order buy a gun in Switzerland.
Here's how you can buy a gun in Switzerland.
There are three different categories of weapons in Switzerland.
Free weaponsThese weapons include bolt action and break action long guns and can be bought with just your ID (mandatory) and a crime records extract if necessary, since it's up to the seller to judge if he wants proof that you are a criminal or not. Everyone asks for a crime records extract anyway.
You then sign a bill of sale, you get a copy for you, one for the seller and one for the police to be sent in 30 days.
WES weaponsThese weapons include any semi auto, lever action and pump action gun (including handguns). You can buy these weapons by sending a copy of your ID, a crime records extract not older than 3 months and a filled out WES request that looks like this (takes 5 minutes to fill out), to the police.
The police only checks your crime records, they cannot deny you a WES without definitive and concrete evidence that you don't fulfill the requirements. There is no psychological test or any way to see if you are a danger to yourself or other people, because they cannot check for those things. It's basically about the honesty of the person that fills out the WES.
"Forbidden" weaponsThese include fully automatic guns. Although they are not really forbidden because you can request an exception (usually given without much trouble at the more pro gun cantons) by filling out this paper called a Ausnahmebewilligung.
Now for the rest.
There are no SBR laws in Switzerland, no laws concerning assault weapons and no magazine size limits. Getting a firearm in Switzerland is easier than in California or similar states with lots of gun control.
Here's an example of the stuff you can buy in Switzerland.